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  3. Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers.

Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

    #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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    @jwildeboer so glad you posted this. Huge uptrend for me in the last month from google ipv6 2002::

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      Noticeable trend on my mailserver: Spam that comes via IPv6 is 90% from Google servers and the rest is Amazon or Microsoft servers. So far no other senders of IPv6 spam. 95% of spam attempts are still IPv4 from various Chinese, US, pacific country sources. The most annoying spam sender stays hostgnome from UK. (All of these attempts are blocked by my mail server, so never make it past the initial HELO part).

      #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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      @jwildeboer Do you block them by IP or by domain?

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      • heuveltop@social.vivaldi.netH heuveltop@social.vivaldi.net

        @jwildeboer Do you block them by IP or by domain?

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        @heuveltop IP.

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        • tramtrist@famichiki.jpT tramtrist@famichiki.jp

          @jwildeboer so glad you posted this. Huge uptrend for me in the last month from google ipv6 2002::

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          @tramtrist @jwildeboer So true

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            @larsmb @jwildeboer wait I don’t get it. How can we track their AS?

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

              #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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              @homelab @jwildeboer I have questions, if you don't mind.

              1. How long do you block the IPs for?
              2. How do you find the ASs/could you share the cron job?
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              • tramtrist@famichiki.jpT tramtrist@famichiki.jp

                @jwildeboer so glad you posted this. Huge uptrend for me in the last month from google ipv6 2002::

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                @jwildeboer @tramtrist a lot of the spam I get these days is from GMail addresses.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  @heuveltop IP.

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                  @jwildeboer Can you share with us the source of the list of IP addressen?

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                    @larsmb @tramtrist Yep. Use AS to find assigned ranges, feed them to firewall. Every 12 hours.

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      Hostgnome uses a simple tactic. They rent/buy IPv4 address pools, send spam via all allocated addresses in that space for a few days and then get rid of the pool, replacing it with a fresh one. So it makes sense to have a cronjob that checks their ASes and immediately block all pools on the firewall.

                      #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                      Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                      - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                      - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                      - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                      - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                      Rinse, repeat.

                      #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                      • rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org

                        @homelab @jwildeboer I have questions, if you don't mind.

                        1. How long do you block the IPs for?
                        2. How do you find the ASs/could you share the cron job?
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                        @rpbook See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/116058656812877639 I will not share for how long I block these ranges, but definitely for more than a few days or weeks 🙂

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                        • heuveltop@social.vivaldi.netH heuveltop@social.vivaldi.net

                          @jwildeboer Can you share with us the source of the list of IP addressen?

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                          @heuveltop `whois` and AS lookup. See https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/116058656812877639

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                            - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                            - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                            - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                            - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                            Rinse, repeat.

                            #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                            @jwildeboer @homelab typo AS201579, not AS20579.

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              Because a few people asked how I block the IP ranges from hostgnome:

                              - Mailserver detects IP address trying to to deliver spam: 91.237.124.193
                              - Via `whois` I find the corresponding AS: 201579 (picture 1)
                              - Then I find all IP ranges associated with with this AS (picture 2)
                              - Then I go through the ranges and add them to my firewall.

                              Rinse, repeat.

                              #SelfHost #MailAdmin @homelab

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                              @jwildeboer if you want, you can automate that part by querying radb.net:
                              ```
                              ./filter.sh AS201579
                              23.166.72.0/24
                              62.169.151.0/24
                              84.32.41.0/24
                              91.237.124.0/24
                              185.91.69.0/24
                              193.138.195.0/24
                              # ./filter.sh --ipv6 AS201579
                              2a13:2480::/29
                              2602:f9e4::/36
                              ```
                              Source: https://share.aditsystems.de/ztdku91ezQ/filter.sh

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                              • anton@social.dollmaier.nameA anton@social.dollmaier.name

                                @jwildeboer if you want, you can automate that part by querying radb.net:
                                ```
                                ./filter.sh AS201579
                                23.166.72.0/24
                                62.169.151.0/24
                                84.32.41.0/24
                                91.237.124.0/24
                                185.91.69.0/24
                                193.138.195.0/24
                                # ./filter.sh --ipv6 AS201579
                                2a13:2480::/29
                                2602:f9e4::/36
                                ```
                                Source: https://share.aditsystems.de/ztdku91ezQ/filter.sh

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                                @anton Oooh! Nice! I will extend that to add the ranges to my crowdsec based firewall 🙂 Far better than my crude script. Thank you for sharing!

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                                • shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.comS shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.com

                                  @jwildeboer @homelab typo AS201579, not AS20579.

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                                  @shaman007 thx! fixed.

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    @anton Oooh! Nice! I will extend that to add the ranges to my crowdsec based firewall 🙂 Far better than my crude script. Thank you for sharing!

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                                    @jwildeboer nicht von mir. Liegt seit einigen Jahren auf der Festplatte rum.

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