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"#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @moz @idahobucks

    Currently we have trump specifically because not enough showed up

    The general idea that fascists can still win elections doesn't mean anything

    On the average, fascists have an easier time of it when less people vote

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    @benroyce @idahobucks A lot of my caution comes from the US habit of letting governments pick their voters.

    The strategy of yelling abuse at non-voters might get a useful outcome, I don't know your local situation well enough to know. But in general yelling abuse is a poor tactic.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @moz @idahobucks

      Currently we have trump specifically because not enough showed up

      The general idea that fascists can still win elections doesn't mean anything

      On the average, fascists have an easier time of it when less people vote

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      @benroyce @moz I have voted in every election I could since I was old enough to vote and have driven people to the polls that need transportation.

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      • idahobucks@mastodon.socialI idahobucks@mastodon.social

        @benroyce @moz I have voted in every election I could since I was old enough to vote and have driven people to the polls that need transportation.

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        @idahobucks @moz

        then BLESS YOU

        you are my hero

        so why the fuck would you ever downplay voting in premature capitulation, which only helps MAGA

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        • moz@fosstodon.orgM moz@fosstodon.org

          @benroyce @idahobucks A lot of my caution comes from the US habit of letting governments pick their voters.

          The strategy of yelling abuse at non-voters might get a useful outcome, I don't know your local situation well enough to know. But in general yelling abuse is a poor tactic.

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          @moz @idahobucks

          If we're at a place where people won't vote because someone was mean on social media, we're already doomed. Such immature people unable to advocate for their own needs and wants and are that emotionally addled, if they represent a large enough part of society, it speaks of such disgusting laziness and entitlement then just say good bye to it all now

          And you certainly won't get such inept losers to vote by coddling their feelings

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

            🀞 🀞 🀞

            If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

            Fuck your #cynicism

            VOTE

            Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

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            @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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            • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

              @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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              @FrancoisPrague the world could really use some of that.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                🀞 🀞 🀞

                If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                Fuck your #cynicism

                VOTE

                Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

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                @benroyce I presume Uncle Volodea will make sure he falls from a balcony in the meantime not to disturb his mate Viktor

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                • carbon_compound@mastodon.socialC carbon_compound@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce I live close to the .hu border and I know some Hungarians.
                  They are as stupid as Austrians, Muricans or Russians.

                  Mark my words when it comes to elections.

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                  @carbon_compound @benroyce there's really no need to paint just some nations with a broad brush. Stupidity is an ubiquitous human trait.

                  There's reasons why people in Eastern Germany, Hungary and Slovakia voted for hard right parties. But i feel like it is currently very visible demonstrated that hard right parties lead down a path that fails even harder on these reasons...

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                  • missqarnstein@eldritch.cafeM missqarnstein@eldritch.cafe

                    @carbon_compound @benroyce there's really no need to paint just some nations with a broad brush. Stupidity is an ubiquitous human trait.

                    There's reasons why people in Eastern Germany, Hungary and Slovakia voted for hard right parties. But i feel like it is currently very visible demonstrated that hard right parties lead down a path that fails even harder on these reasons...

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                    @carbon_compound @benroyce (hard agree on the Austrians thou hahaha)

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @moz @idahobucks

                      If we're at a place where people won't vote because someone was mean on social media, we're already doomed. Such immature people unable to advocate for their own needs and wants and are that emotionally addled, if they represent a large enough part of society, it speaks of such disgusting laziness and entitlement then just say good bye to it all now

                      And you certainly won't get such inept losers to vote by coddling their feelings

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                      @benroyce @moz @idahobucks

                      I find the idea of "iterating to better" somewhat naive. Even with perfectly proportional electoral system elected individuals tend to reflect the worldview and education level of the general population.

                      Turnaround at the recent elections was merely the last straw. Underlying economic and social issues combined with uselessness of the Dem leadership played a much bigger role.

                      Even if Harris would win the problem would return in 4 years.

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                      • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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                        @FrancoisPrague @benroyce We can at least hope so!

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                        • klegdixal@social.vivaldi.netK klegdixal@social.vivaldi.net

                          @benroyce @moz @idahobucks

                          I find the idea of "iterating to better" somewhat naive. Even with perfectly proportional electoral system elected individuals tend to reflect the worldview and education level of the general population.

                          Turnaround at the recent elections was merely the last straw. Underlying economic and social issues combined with uselessness of the Dem leadership played a much bigger role.

                          Even if Harris would win the problem would return in 4 years.

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                          @klegdixal @moz @idahobucks

                          the problem is always there

                          defeating fascism is not "yay we won!" then it is all over forever. that is what is naive

                          it requires people to constantly vote and constantly show up

                          and so that is naive on my part:

                          that so many people "on the left" have the constitution and resolve to just fucking vote, something easy to do- relatively speaking compared to other forms of struggle

                          and that is the failure:

                          loser assholes who don't vote

                          they let us all down

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @klegdixal @moz @idahobucks

                            the problem is always there

                            defeating fascism is not "yay we won!" then it is all over forever. that is what is naive

                            it requires people to constantly vote and constantly show up

                            and so that is naive on my part:

                            that so many people "on the left" have the constitution and resolve to just fucking vote, something easy to do- relatively speaking compared to other forms of struggle

                            and that is the failure:

                            loser assholes who don't vote

                            they let us all down

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                            @klegdixal @moz @idahobucks

                            we lose an election?

                            we keep going

                            correct?

                            no

                            what we get is "waah waah we lost one election. waah waah this is so hard. waah waah i give up"

                            fucking losers

                            and so fascism has it easier. *because of* people supposedly on the left. supposedly, because the real left in days of yore had a fucking backbone

                            that's what we lack nowadays

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                            • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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                              @FrancoisPrague

                              VOOOOOTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE

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                                @cflynnbooks

                                VOTE!

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @FrancoisPrague

                                  VOOOOOTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE

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                                  @benroyce @FrancoisPrague πŸ‘

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @klegdixal @moz @idahobucks

                                    we lose an election?

                                    we keep going

                                    correct?

                                    no

                                    what we get is "waah waah we lost one election. waah waah this is so hard. waah waah i give up"

                                    fucking losers

                                    and so fascism has it easier. *because of* people supposedly on the left. supposedly, because the real left in days of yore had a fucking backbone

                                    that's what we lack nowadays

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                                    @benroyce @klegdixal @moz @idahobucks πŸ‘

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                                    • illdisposed@mastodon.socialI illdisposed@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce I presume Uncle Volodea will make sure he falls from a balcony in the meantime not to disturb his mate Viktor

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                                      @Illdisposed

                                      dirty tricks is absolutely on the menu. i hope peter has good security

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                                        @cy @idahobucks

                                        just fucking show up in the fucking primaries and get real left candidates

                                        happening in a few weeks

                                        that's how we got mamdani

                                        we can get 50 mamdanis if PEOPLE FUCKING VOTE

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