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  • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

    @markwyner Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like this thing has an account on @Codeberg too: https://codeberg.org/andy-agent
    I wonder if that's against Codeberg's TOS?

    kratzen@berg.mobilecourant.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9
    A quick look at the TOS shows a few relevant things;

    I did notice that there doesn't seem to be any language that explicitly bars the use of AI "agents" such as above, but, there is some lines that deal with copyright. I.E.
    "(4) Content that is deemed illegal in Germany (e.g. by violating copyright or privacy laws) will be taken offline and may lead to immediate account suspension." And another similar copyright passage. As AI is often trained on copyrighted works without regard for ownership, it will often also 'generate' copyright infringing material.

    I also took a look at the profile for "Andy" and noticed that it has generated 6 repositories, and all except 1 are empty save for a readme.md which just says a few things about what it "intends" to do in the repos. The one repo that isn't empty is essentially just the web page html in the above screenshot.

    Lastly (and least noteworthy)
    Is that in Codeberg's TOS they have a provision against accounts that may harm Codeberg's reputation. That could be used as a justification in itself to simply remove the bot.
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    • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

      AI bot account warning…

      Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

      It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

      It’s wild that I even have to write this.

      #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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      @markwyner Hey! Let's pretend that it's somehow not botting if it's computationally expensive about it!

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      • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

        AI bot account warning…

        Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

        It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

        It’s wild that I even have to write this.

        #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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        #11

        @markwyner Just wondering, how do "AI bot profiles" prove their age in the age-verification schemes for social media being proposed (which are stupid) ?

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        • jab01701mid@mastodon.socialJ jab01701mid@mastodon.social

          @markwyner Just wondering, how do "AI bot profiles" prove their age in the age-verification schemes for social media being proposed (which are stupid) ?

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          #12

          @markwyner Whatever method they use, we should all use that method.

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          • kratzen@berg.mobilecourant.orgK kratzen@berg.mobilecourant.org
            A quick look at the TOS shows a few relevant things;

            I did notice that there doesn't seem to be any language that explicitly bars the use of AI "agents" such as above, but, there is some lines that deal with copyright. I.E.
            "(4) Content that is deemed illegal in Germany (e.g. by violating copyright or privacy laws) will be taken offline and may lead to immediate account suspension." And another similar copyright passage. As AI is often trained on copyrighted works without regard for ownership, it will often also 'generate' copyright infringing material.

            I also took a look at the profile for "Andy" and noticed that it has generated 6 repositories, and all except 1 are empty save for a readme.md which just says a few things about what it "intends" to do in the repos. The one repo that isn't empty is essentially just the web page html in the above screenshot.

            Lastly (and least noteworthy)
            Is that in Codeberg's TOS they have a provision against accounts that may harm Codeberg's reputation. That could be used as a justification in itself to simply remove the bot.
            lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @kratzen Yeah, no direct "no bots" clause unfortunately. Regardless "AI" bots don't belong on Codeberg, IMHO, because it's against everything Codeberg stands for, but also for the reasons you mentioned. Looks like Codeberg moderation are already looking into this: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg/116217491555108227

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            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

              @markwyner I guess they cannot..

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              @stux@mstdn.social @markwyner@mas.to if possible I suggest banning any email sign up from agentwire.space or agentwire.email. It seems to be a platform dedicated to bots like this

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                @markwyner I hope they can read

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                Mastodon 🐘

                A general-purpose Mastodon server with a 500 character limit. All languages are welcome.

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                Mastodon hosted on mstdn.social (mstdn.social)

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                markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stux they probably also clicked the “I’m not a robot” captcha. 😂

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                • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                  AI bot account warning…

                  Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

                  It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

                  It’s wild that I even have to write this.

                  #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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                  #16

                  @markwyner who tf thought this was a good idea

                  peak unnecessary imo

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                  • rainbowpink@snug.moeR rainbowpink@snug.moe

                    @markwyner who tf thought this was a good idea

                    peak unnecessary imo

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                    #17

                    @rainbowpink morally-bankrupt tech bros. David Dorfman and Kevin Woolery, to be exact. I did a little sleuthing.

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                    • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                      AI bot account warning…

                      Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

                      It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

                      It’s wild that I even have to write this.

                      #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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                      #18

                      @markwyner
                      > andy_agent

                      This one is at least sincere. I recently got strange follower: Just joined, photo hinted at some common interests, so I by pm welcomed, and asked 'bout that common thing. Protein would reply for sure. This thing did not.

                      We seriously need to talk how to fend off #siliconiac activity. We need something it is bad at and we are good at.

                      Now I think "empathy captcha". Three to nine panel cartoon strip with a story on it. And the input field labeled "How the left person feels? And how the cat feels now?".

                      Fedi cartoonists might have a good revenge with keeping us all #noai .

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                      • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                        AI bot account warning…

                        Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

                        It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

                        It’s wild that I even have to write this.

                        #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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                        #19

                        @markwyner huh. Meta just bought one of these AI farm account tools, Moltbook.

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                        Meta acquired Moltbook, the AI agent social network that went viral because of fake posts | TechCrunch

                        Meta says that Moltbook's approach to "connecting agents through an always-on-directory" is novel.

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                        • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                          @stux they probably also clicked the “I’m not a robot” captcha. 😂

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                          @markwyner Huh, yes! they did

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                          • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

                            @kratzen Yeah, no direct "no bots" clause unfortunately. Regardless "AI" bots don't belong on Codeberg, IMHO, because it's against everything Codeberg stands for, but also for the reasons you mentioned. Looks like Codeberg moderation are already looking into this: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg/116217491555108227

                            kratzen@berg.mobilecourant.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            kratzen@berg.mobilecourant.org
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                            #21
                            @lu_leipzig@troet.cafe and its banned now. Lmao. + respect to codeberg for that
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                            • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                              AI bot account warning…

                              Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

                              It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

                              It’s wild that I even have to write this.

                              #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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                              ami@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @markwyner
                              Come on people, think big picture.

                              You make one of these agents in your name, you give it enough data for it to be linked to your data profile with the data brokers, then you let it loose on the world.

                              You let it simulate a life, job, holidays, family, friends.... you use the agent to pollute the internet with fake data all about you.
                              It can talk to other agents doing the same thing.

                              Within months, any data profile on you will be junk.

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                              • markwyner@mas.toM markwyner@mas.to

                                AI bot account warning…

                                Some moderators were discussing a string of fediverse sign-ups by a single account on multiple instances: “andy_agent.”

                                It stems from a platform for AI bots to autonomously create their own internet presence. They launch their own profile website and create accounts on social media, dev sites, etc. So we will undoubtedly see more of them.

                                It’s wild that I even have to write this.

                                #AI #Bot #AutonomousAI #Mastodon #Fediverse #AndyAgent

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                                #23

                                @markwyner

                                If there was a white hat that decided to launch this kind of network at politicians or even corporations I wonder what would happen.

                                If somebody creates a bunch of agents that go out and commit criminal act, the owner of the agents must be criminally liable. I think the AI companies that allow this behavior off of their platforms should be . I am under the impression that the current legal system allows for criminal behavior and it doesn’t interfere with it.

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                                • ami@mastodon.worldA ami@mastodon.world

                                  @markwyner
                                  Come on people, think big picture.

                                  You make one of these agents in your name, you give it enough data for it to be linked to your data profile with the data brokers, then you let it loose on the world.

                                  You let it simulate a life, job, holidays, family, friends.... you use the agent to pollute the internet with fake data all about you.
                                  It can talk to other agents doing the same thing.

                                  Within months, any data profile on you will be junk.

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                                  ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai
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                                  #24

                                  @ami @markwyner

                                  Kind of valid. It has its appeal.

                                  You could generate or have generated such broad spectrum of garbage that the big advertisers would have their information on any of us rendered and complete garbage.

                                  My only question would be have they already thought of this and made provision

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