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  3. Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

    Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

    nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @petergleick To be fair, Protestantism technically doesn't consider the Pope to be the spiritual head of their religion.

    Honestly, the people in charge of the regime are using Evangelism as the religion they claim to and their god is money. Their only leader is the almighty fleecing, their messiah the one-sided contract.

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    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

      Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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      @petergleick not necessarily: this hero was fighting the church all the time and he was right and the church was very wrong

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay

      But jeh, the orange clown is very much the problem here.

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      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

        Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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        @petergleick I would have thought that being totally at odds with your founders teachings might be your problem.

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        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

          Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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          @petergleick But Peter, his behaviour, actions and morals are not at odds with Paula White-Cain. 🤭

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          • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

            @petergleick To be fair, Protestantism technically doesn't consider the Pope to be the spiritual head of their religion.

            Honestly, the people in charge of the regime are using Evangelism as the religion they claim to and their god is money. Their only leader is the almighty fleecing, their messiah the one-sided contract.

            altim@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick JD Vance is however a catholic.

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            • altim@mastodon.nlA altim@mastodon.nl

              @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick JD Vance is however a catholic.

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              @altim @petergleick You forgot the quotes.

              He's "Catholic."

              My real point isn't even what they claim. Most, if pressed won't specify Evangelism. They'll just say "Christian." It's lip service. In the end what they all truly worship is money and power. None believe a single word of their professed religion and couldn't care less what any religious leaders or even the texts themselves say.

              Eventually they will form an official State religion. They will be its leaders.

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              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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                @petergleick Tricky one. If you're a Catholic and sexually active homosexual, or you're divorced, or have an abortion, or you use artificial birth control, etc your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head.

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                • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                  @petergleick To be fair, Protestantism technically doesn't consider the Pope to be the spiritual head of their religion.

                  Honestly, the people in charge of the regime are using Evangelism as the religion they claim to and their god is money. Their only leader is the almighty fleecing, their messiah the one-sided contract.

                  axeln@norden.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick True, but at least JD and a few SCOTUS claim to be catholic.

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                  • ojala@mastodon.nzO ojala@mastodon.nz

                    @petergleick Tricky one. If you're a Catholic and sexually active homosexual, or you're divorced, or have an abortion, or you use artificial birth control, etc your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head.

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                    @ojala @petergleick Yes. Maybe the catholic faith is then probably not the right choice for you.

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                    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                      Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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                      @petergleick #join #pastafari
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                      • axeln@norden.socialA axeln@norden.social

                        @ojala @petergleick Yes. Maybe the catholic faith is then probably not the right choice for you.

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                        @axeln @petergleick That would exclude a huge proportion of Catholics, particularly the contraception one.

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                        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                          Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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                          @petergleick I’m starting to think their religion is actually Amway and not some denomination of Christianity.

                          A pyramid scheme above all else.

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                          • ojala@mastodon.nzO ojala@mastodon.nz

                            @axeln @petergleick That would exclude a huge proportion of Catholics, particularly the contraception one.

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                            @ojala @petergleick I am not judging.

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                            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                              Look, I'm certainly no authority on religion, but it seems to me that if your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head of your religion, the problem may be you.

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                              @petergleick

                              "The Pope is not a true Catholic" says it all really.

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                              • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                @altim @petergleick You forgot the quotes.

                                He's "Catholic."

                                My real point isn't even what they claim. Most, if pressed won't specify Evangelism. They'll just say "Christian." It's lip service. In the end what they all truly worship is money and power. None believe a single word of their professed religion and couldn't care less what any religious leaders or even the texts themselves say.

                                Eventually they will form an official State religion. They will be its leaders.

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                                @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick Trump as the pontifex maximus.

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                                • ojala@mastodon.nzO ojala@mastodon.nz

                                  @petergleick Tricky one. If you're a Catholic and sexually active homosexual, or you're divorced, or have an abortion, or you use artificial birth control, etc your behavior, actions, and morals are at odds with the spiritual head.

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                                  @ojala The issue isn’t whether one disagrees with the spiritual head of one’s religion. The issue is whether or not one goes in front of the national press to assert that one is morally superior to them.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/vance-pope-trump-georgia.html

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                                  • mighty_orbot@retro.pizzaM mighty_orbot@retro.pizza

                                    @ojala The issue isn’t whether one disagrees with the spiritual head of one’s religion. The issue is whether or not one goes in front of the national press to assert that one is morally superior to them.

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/us/politics/vance-pope-trump-georgia.html

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                                    @mighty_orbot I tend to agree with the last part. I’m pointing out that the disagreement is not a sufficient condition. Not even public but respectful disagreement.

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                                    • altim@mastodon.nlA altim@mastodon.nl

                                      @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick JD Vance is however a catholic.

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                                      @altim @nazokiyoubinbou @petergleick That's what he's saying, but given the track record of the dumpster fire in the whitehouse, that might be just political convenience.

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