the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark Most of these sound like EU-wide rules in general (or at least in effect in most EU-countries) but one stood out:
"rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
What the fuck is this and who in their right might thought that this was a good idea
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@whitequark Most of these sound like EU-wide rules in general (or at least in effect in most EU-countries) but one stood out:
"rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
What the fuck is this and who in their right might thought that this was a good idea
@exec an agent suggested I do this like it's the most normal fucking thing with a straight face. I could not believe my ears
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark your toot sounds like an excellent summary of a long legal document (that I don't have), so thank you
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@whitequark your toot sounds like an excellent summary of a long legal document (that I don't have), so thank you
@josgeluk see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhDGN7HBxL8 which is what this is based on
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark Labour, (notwithstanding mis-steps), quietly making life more bearable for ordinary people in the UK. Full credit to them for this legislation.
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@whitequark Labour, (notwithstanding mis-steps), quietly making life more bearable for ordinary people in the UK. Full credit to them for this legislation.
@RejoinEU this is probably the one good thing they've done. the mis-steps are the norm, doing something right is the exception
(and i think a lot of this bill is based on the bill of their predecessors, too)
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@RejoinEU this is probably the one good thing they've done. the mis-steps are the norm, doing something right is the exception
(and i think a lot of this bill is based on the bill of their predecessors, too)
@whitequark What about removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords?
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@josgeluk see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhDGN7HBxL8 which is what this is based on
@whitequark document or video, my compliment still stands

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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark I can't help but think there will be some negatives though - and some catches.
I was admittedly amazed that bidding wars became a thing on rentals - seems to have been a thing after I bought a house (which fundamentally happened because I was given the Section 21 notice where I was - which incidentally was because of the desire to increase the rent significantly - undoubtedly).
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark is this UK wide or just England?
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@whitequark What about removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords?
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@whitequark Most of these sound like EU-wide rules in general (or at least in effect in most EU-countries) but one stood out:
"rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
What the fuck is this and who in their right might thought that this was a good idea
@exec @whitequark rent bidding has started becoming the norm here in Australia ;_;
wanted to ask about UK/EU stuff tho, how many months notice for landlords ending a rolling contract?
here fixed term is standard and we (tenants) preferred it because it at least gave you 12-24 months of stability at same rent rather than them giving 2-month notice to end so they could relist it at a price higher than they could increase your rent by
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the UK has had some new legislation enacted which improves renters' rights [initially with England; housing is a devolved matter] by a lot:
- there are no more fixed rental contracts; everything is done on a rolling basis with a generous multiple-month notice
- no-fault evictions are gone
- after an eviction without reason landlords couldn't re-list it as a rental property for a year
- rent can be increased once a year with a 2-month notice
- rent increases can be challenged by a tenant
- "rental bidding" where you try to give the landlord a higher price than other tenants is made illegal (this was the single biggest WTF moment i had arriving to the UK)
- pets must be accepted by default, unless there is a good reason not to ("I don't want to" is not a good reason)
hell yeah.
@whitequark the bidding thing feels like a recent development, we encountered it for the first time in 2023. every time I moved before this, you made an offer and the landlord said yes/no. after, it was your bid got put in a big pot, you had to write a grovelling personal statement, etc
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@whitequark is this UK wide or just England?
@revk England (housing is a devolved matter), but it seems they're working to enforce similar things in other countries
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@whitequark the bidding thing feels like a recent development, we encountered it for the first time in 2023. every time I moved before this, you made an offer and the landlord said yes/no. after, it was your bid got put in a big pot, you had to write a grovelling personal statement, etc
@whitequark very glad that it's stopped, it made moving impossible. that year and the year after our landlord put rent up over 10% each year so I'd like to know what effect these laws actually end up having on rent rises
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@exec @whitequark rent bidding has started becoming the norm here in Australia ;_;
wanted to ask about UK/EU stuff tho, how many months notice for landlords ending a rolling contract?
here fixed term is standard and we (tenants) preferred it because it at least gave you 12-24 months of stability at same rent rather than them giving 2-month notice to end so they could relist it at a price higher than they could increase your rent by
@az @exec "it depends" but it's 4 month notice for most of them https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-the-renters-rights-act/guide-to-the-renters-rights-act
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@whitequark Yes, since getting elected this time.
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@whitequark the bidding thing feels like a recent development, we encountered it for the first time in 2023. every time I moved before this, you made an offer and the landlord said yes/no. after, it was your bid got put in a big pot, you had to write a grovelling personal statement, etc
@jcoglan that was the year I moved to the UK. I was competing with 10 other people. it was humiliating
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@whitequark Yes, since getting elected this time.