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  3. Hey so like we all know that everything those Meta glasses see gets sorted through by sweatshop workers right?

Hey so like we all know that everything those Meta glasses see gets sorted through by sweatshop workers right?

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  • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

    If you've gone to the bathroom wearing Meta glasses chances are that some desperately poor worker in India or Africa has been subjected to footage of your junk.

    I don't know man I think wearing those things is a moral crime without excuse and the creation of them is the sort of evil that should see everyone involved formally exiled from the human race and interred living into the tainted chasms below Yucca Mountain.

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    And I saw folks arguing recently that it's justified for some people to wear Meta glasses because of their disability and like...I'm sorry but if that's you I think you need to know you're a rube. Every single time these tech barons invent a new perversion to rob people with they argue it will help disabled people. Not only does it never work out but also none of these tech companies bother doing even basic things to accommodate disability. You really want to argue that disabled people should be subjected to Zuckerberg's panopticon? For the sake of what poorly put together bullshit exactly?

    Tbh at some point if you're arguing that the tech barons are helping disabled people I kind of suspect you just don't care for disabled people very much. Please take to heart that this is always a scam argument.

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    • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

      And I saw folks arguing recently that it's justified for some people to wear Meta glasses because of their disability and like...I'm sorry but if that's you I think you need to know you're a rube. Every single time these tech barons invent a new perversion to rob people with they argue it will help disabled people. Not only does it never work out but also none of these tech companies bother doing even basic things to accommodate disability. You really want to argue that disabled people should be subjected to Zuckerberg's panopticon? For the sake of what poorly put together bullshit exactly?

      Tbh at some point if you're arguing that the tech barons are helping disabled people I kind of suspect you just don't care for disabled people very much. Please take to heart that this is always a scam argument.

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      @PallasRiot What disability do they think requires wearing spy glasses?

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      • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

        @PallasRiot What disability do they think requires wearing spy glasses?

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        @jackemled @PallasRiot visual impairment and it works very well for most. The glasses aren't even new, but the facial recognition is. I understand the opposition, but don't agree with the absolute position

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        • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

          @jackemled @PallasRiot visual impairment and it works very well for most. The glasses aren't even new, but the facial recognition is. I understand the opposition, but don't agree with the absolute position

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          @justinto @jackemled "As long as some of Meta's victims are disabled you must accept the spy glasses" is a wacky argument

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          • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

            @justinto @jackemled "As long as some of Meta's victims are disabled you must accept the spy glasses" is a wacky argument

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            @PallasRiot @jackemled I have no argument. I do no think there's a right position here, and I'm certainly sure it's not an absolute one. I'm totally cool with be wacky

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            • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

              @jackemled @PallasRiot visual impairment and it works very well for most. The glasses aren't even new, but the facial recognition is. I understand the opposition, but don't agree with the absolute position

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              @justinto @jackemled @PallasRiot

              What specific accessibility issues do the Meta glasses address that aren't already addressed by the current options?

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              • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                @jackemled @PallasRiot visual impairment and it works very well for most. The glasses aren't even new, but the facial recognition is. I understand the opposition, but don't agree with the absolute position

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                @justinto @PallasRiot Are you for real saying that glasses must have cameras, facial recognition, & stream video to a data broker's server in order to correct someone's blurry vision? You don't need any of that. Just wear normal glasses. You can get glasses that don't have any of that.

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                • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                  @justinto @PallasRiot Are you for real saying that glasses must have cameras, facial recognition, & stream video to a data broker's server in order to correct someone's blurry vision? You don't need any of that. Just wear normal glasses. You can get glasses that don't have any of that.

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                  @jackemled @PallasRiot the term visual impairment goes all the way to total blindness. You may be physically missing both eyes and the term is still visually impaired.
                  Normal glasses tend not to do anything for many many visual impairments. Perhaps speak to someone with a visual impairment, for whom glasses are not a viable solution to see how they feel about it, as we're not in that position.

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                  • magreggins@mastodon.socialM magreggins@mastodon.social

                    @justinto @jackemled @PallasRiot

                    What specific accessibility issues do the Meta glasses address that aren't already addressed by the current options?

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                    @magreggins @jackemled @PallasRiot describing the world around the person, reading text, navigation and now the facial recognition let's them know they are looking at their wife, and not a stranger. The basic things that I take for granted, these glasses give to people with varying visual impairments. No one is happy Meta is behind this, but I can understand the arguments for using glasses with these capabilities.

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                    • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

                      And I saw folks arguing recently that it's justified for some people to wear Meta glasses because of their disability and like...I'm sorry but if that's you I think you need to know you're a rube. Every single time these tech barons invent a new perversion to rob people with they argue it will help disabled people. Not only does it never work out but also none of these tech companies bother doing even basic things to accommodate disability. You really want to argue that disabled people should be subjected to Zuckerberg's panopticon? For the sake of what poorly put together bullshit exactly?

                      Tbh at some point if you're arguing that the tech barons are helping disabled people I kind of suspect you just don't care for disabled people very much. Please take to heart that this is always a scam argument.

                      ska@social.treehouse.systemsS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @PallasRiot "It's to help disabled people" gaining traction, on track to challenge "it's to protect children"!

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                      • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                        @jackemled @PallasRiot the term visual impairment goes all the way to total blindness. You may be physically missing both eyes and the term is still visually impaired.
                        Normal glasses tend not to do anything for many many visual impairments. Perhaps speak to someone with a visual impairment, for whom glasses are not a viable solution to see how they feel about it, as we're not in that position.

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                        @justinto @PallasRiot You're trying really hard to lick Mark Zuckerberg's boots. How do spy glasses help someone who is totally blind at all?

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                        • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                          @magreggins @jackemled @PallasRiot describing the world around the person, reading text, navigation and now the facial recognition let's them know they are looking at their wife, and not a stranger. The basic things that I take for granted, these glasses give to people with varying visual impairments. No one is happy Meta is behind this, but I can understand the arguments for using glasses with these capabilities.

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                          @justinto @magreggins @PallasRiot dude they have ears

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                          • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                            @justinto @PallasRiot You're trying really hard to lick Mark Zuckerberg's boots. How do spy glasses help someone who is totally blind at all?

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                            @jackemled @PallasRiot I'm just going to point you to the Wikipedia page, but again I really suggest talking to someone with a visual impairments using the glasses. Some people are here on fedi. I also don't think all people with visual impairments would agree with the use, because people are diverse, and it's hard to capture all opinions with absolutes.

                            Look under assistive technology benefits or try your local search engine
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray-Ban_Meta

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                            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                              @justinto @magreggins @PallasRiot dude they have ears

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                              @jackemled @magreggins @PallasRiot that's exactly how it works. The glasses use built in earphones to describe the world around them, read text aloud and other voice prompts.

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                              • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                                @jackemled @PallasRiot I'm just going to point you to the Wikipedia page, but again I really suggest talking to someone with a visual impairments using the glasses. Some people are here on fedi. I also don't think all people with visual impairments would agree with the use, because people are diverse, and it's hard to capture all opinions with absolutes.

                                Look under assistive technology benefits or try your local search engine
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray-Ban_Meta

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                                @justinto @PallasRiot This isn't helping anyone. They're just a spy device attached to glasses. There is no accessibility benefit at all. If there was then I would probably get them. The only thing it has in the assistive technology section is "shitgpt can randomly generate a description of an environment that might resemble your surroundings", which is dangerous. Smartphones already provide spoken navigation assistance & describe surroundings accurately to the last time they were surveyed & they don't rely on a random number generator to do so.

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                                • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                  @justinto @PallasRiot This isn't helping anyone. They're just a spy device attached to glasses. There is no accessibility benefit at all. If there was then I would probably get them. The only thing it has in the assistive technology section is "shitgpt can randomly generate a description of an environment that might resemble your surroundings", which is dangerous. Smartphones already provide spoken navigation assistance & describe surroundings accurately to the last time they were surveyed & they don't rely on a random number generator to do so.

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                                  @jackemled @PallasRiot or ask a person using them. Good night, friend.

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                                  • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                                    @jackemled @magreggins @PallasRiot that's exactly how it works. The glasses use built in earphones to describe the world around them, read text aloud and other voice prompts.

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                                    @justinto @magreggins @PallasRiot If they have ears, they can hear their surroundings fine. If they're using navigation software on a mobile device they also have notes on their surroundings that are actually accurate because a human went & wrote everything down. If not, they're with a caretaker or partner or friend that helps with that. Blind people are not stupid or completely helpless & it's ableist to imply that they are.

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                                    • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                                      @jackemled @PallasRiot or ask a person using them. Good night, friend.

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                                      @justinto @PallasRiot dude please leave the basement

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                                      • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                                        @magreggins @jackemled @PallasRiot describing the world around the person, reading text, navigation and now the facial recognition let's them know they are looking at their wife, and not a stranger. The basic things that I take for granted, these glasses give to people with varying visual impairments. No one is happy Meta is behind this, but I can understand the arguments for using glasses with these capabilities.

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                                        @justinto @magreggins @jackemled @PallasRiot All of that is perfectly possible with a cheaper device and with no internet connection. The software side is kind of lacking (it works but it's not easy to set up at the moment) but it's still proof that you don't need to depend on a corporation that spy on us for any of that.

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                                        • justinto@mas.toJ justinto@mas.to

                                          @magreggins @jackemled @PallasRiot describing the world around the person, reading text, navigation and now the facial recognition let's them know they are looking at their wife, and not a stranger. The basic things that I take for granted, these glasses give to people with varying visual impairments. No one is happy Meta is behind this, but I can understand the arguments for using glasses with these capabilities.

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                                          @justinto @jackemled @PallasRiot

                                          You didn't answer my question. What specific accessibility issues do the Meta glasses address that aren't already addressed by the current options?

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