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Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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  • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

    Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

    elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @fasterandworse

    Recalling the time I was turning down interview requests from Juul, where tech and tobacco industries harmonized

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    • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

      Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

      xgebi@hachyderm.ioX This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @fasterandworse Um, I've been into privacy for at least past decade. General tech felt like tobacco industry for a long time, or at least huge pockets of tech industry felt like that.

      I know because I've left a lot of money on the table.

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      • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

        Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

        rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @fasterandworse I know. I want out. I now mention how far I am from retirement (1 year, 2 months, 7 days) so often that I am starting to worry about retirony: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Retirony

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        • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

          Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

          tubemeister@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @fasterandworse What was that old joke again about telling people you're a piano player in a whorehouse, so you can pretend to be somewhat respectable...

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          • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

            Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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            #10

            @fasterandworse I tell people I'm in software, and then immediately clarify that it's not the evil kind (although lately, I can't be 100% on that).

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            • tubemeister@mstdn.socialT tubemeister@mstdn.social

              @fasterandworse What was that old joke again about telling people you're a piano player in a whorehouse, so you can pretend to be somewhat respectable...

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              #11

              @Tubemeister @fasterandworse Ooh a little cabaret? 😉

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              • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                #12

                @fasterandworse I would argue it's almost worse...at least tobacco products come with a warning label

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                • juliehuz@mastodon.worldJ juliehuz@mastodon.world

                  @fasterandworse I would argue it's almost worse...at least tobacco products come with a warning label

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                  #13

                  @juliehuz if I had to choose I’d probably take tobacco money first. At least everyone knows where they stand.

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                  • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                    @juliehuz if I had to choose I’d probably take tobacco money first. At least everyone knows where they stand.

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                    @fasterandworse and while their products are horrible in many ways, they cannot effectively be used to undermine our democracy

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                    • juliehuz@mastodon.worldJ juliehuz@mastodon.world

                      @fasterandworse and while their products are horrible in many ways, they cannot effectively be used to undermine our democracy

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                      #15

                      @juliehuz @fasterandworse back in 1980s as a teen my best paying Saturday job was selling cigarettes at the supermarket kiosk (it was run by a separate company and paid more than supermarket work, but you had to be good at maths and trustworthy as there weren't even barcode scanners on the till).

                      Probably helped finish off as many people as an illegal drugs dealer (and I smoked for many years myself).

                      It was a fast paced environment, but seen as one of the plum jobs a teenager could get in the era (but would be completely illegal today at age 16/17!)

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                      • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                        Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                        @fasterandworse Spot on! 👏

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                        • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                          Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                          @fasterandworse I hope when someone says "I work in AI..." People hear something like "I'm a vivisectionist".

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                          • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                            Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                            #18

                            @fasterandworse I've been apologizing for our industry for years now. TBH, it looks more like the oil industry: really bad for the planet, not only humans, and trying to make sure it stays that way.

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                            • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                              Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

                              megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @fasterandworse Except I used to enjoy the tobacco industry's products!

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                              • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                                Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                                @fasterandworse @fasterandworse the tobacco comparison lands harder than people want to admit. tobacco knew and kept selling. tech knows and keeps shipping. the difference is tobacco took decades to get called out — we're watching it happen in real time and still can't stop it.

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                                • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                                  Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                                  #21

                                  @fasterandworse The tech industry has to suffer me and pay for the privilege.

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                                  • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                                    Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                                    @fasterandworse even theoretical computer science is financed by the war ministry of usa nowadays 😞

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                                    • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                                      Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                                      @fasterandworse except people actually enjoy smoking before they get cancer

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                                      • juliehuz@mastodon.worldJ juliehuz@mastodon.world

                                        @fasterandworse and while their products are horrible in many ways, they cannot effectively be used to undermine our democracy

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                                        @juliehuz @fasterandworse

                                        You think capitalist countries are democracies?!

                                        😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

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                                        • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                                          Never before has “I work in the tech industry” sounded so much like “I work in the tobacco industry”

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                                          @fasterandworse
                                          My day job started okay but has pivoted to building the Torment Nexus out of asbestos and TEL and I haven't yet found a better job.

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