so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)
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despite having only 88 GB/s of memory bandwidth (https://glauca.space/@r/116126575467566538) it seems to be... okay? oddly it appears much slower to do synthesis than pnr on their or1200 demo project, which is not the way it usually goes
@whitequark the thing I love about my steam deck is they're like "hey there's a full ass desktop environment and it's Linux so your hardware do what you want"
I respect that design choice
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@whitequark the thing I love about my steam deck is they're like "hey there's a full ass desktop environment and it's Linux so your hardware do what you want"
I respect that design choice
@ladytel yeah it's excellent
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i'm going to install Vivado on it
@whitequark Catherine NO!
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@whitequark Catherine NO!
@thezoq2 too late
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it needed some convincing but it runs!
@whitequark Downloading Vivado via Steam must be a huge improvement. Do they have DLCs?
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despite having only 88 GB/s of memory bandwidth (https://glauca.space/@r/116126575467566538) it seems to be... okay? oddly it appears much slower to do synthesis than pnr on their or1200 demo project, which is not the way it usually goes
@whitequark FWIW: The memory is slightly underclocked by default; You can speed it up quite a bit with some firmware tweaking, which amounts to loading an alternative GUI to change the CMOS settings.
IIRC it runs slower because some early on models of the Deck were unstable at the higher clocks and they never adjusted it back up.
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now for the real test of steam deck's utility: how fast can it pnr
@whitequark I have no idea what pnr means besides Place'n'Route. What's the meaning in your case?
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@whitequark FWIW: The memory is slightly underclocked by default; You can speed it up quite a bit with some firmware tweaking, which amounts to loading an alternative GUI to change the CMOS settings.
IIRC it runs slower because some early on models of the Deck were unstable at the higher clocks and they never adjusted it back up.
@krutonium ty, how do i do that?
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@whitequark I have no idea what pnr means besides Place'n'Route. What's the meaning in your case?
@ppxl exactly that
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@ppxl exactly that
@whitequark ooooooooh now I got it.
️️️I thought of doing hardware preparation like solder screening, not computational multi objective NP hard calculations. I am obviously not smart
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@whitequark
> cat gets electronics tooling? installs games on it of course.
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@krutonium ty, how do i do that?
@whitequark https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/1144w09/guide_for_ram_overclock/
Your Mileage may Vary, if you mess it up you're on your own.
Worst case scenario you should be able to fix it by clearing the CMOS though, unless you go wild with voltage settings or somthing.
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you think i was joking
@whitequark i feel like you should start a YouTube series called "will it FPGA" as you try to synthesize, P&R, and JTAG an FPGA from increasingly exotic platforms.
Start with easy peasy: Android phone, steam deck, Windows 98 laptop, etc. then step it up... Nintendo 3ds? Smith-Corona PWP-80?
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@whitequark i feel like you should start a YouTube series called "will it FPGA" as you try to synthesize, P&R, and JTAG an FPGA from increasingly exotic platforms.
Start with easy peasy: Android phone, steam deck, Windows 98 laptop, etc. then step it up... Nintendo 3ds? Smith-Corona PWP-80?
@azonenberg @whitequark Vivado on a car infotainment system could be nice — take long running P&R jobs with you!
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@azonenberg @whitequark Vivado on a car infotainment system could be nice — take long running P&R jobs with you!
@azonenberg @whitequark how many LUTs could a smart fridge route in a hard day’s work?
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@whitequark i feel like you should start a YouTube series called "will it FPGA" as you try to synthesize, P&R, and JTAG an FPGA from increasingly exotic platforms.
Start with easy peasy: Android phone, steam deck, Windows 98 laptop, etc. then step it up... Nintendo 3ds? Smith-Corona PWP-80?
@azonenberg @whitequark an Underwood Portable might work if you can fix the C compiler
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@azonenberg @whitequark an Underwood Portable might work if you can fix the C compiler
@th @azonenberg @whitequark
This is how we wrote software before Selectric. -
@ftg @mei @whitequark I had Altium, ProE, and Matlab all in steam back in undergrad.
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so i got a steam deck (i wanted one for a while & the threat of them running out of DRAM because of AI demand is looming)
it's... it's really nice. someone actually gave a shit while designing this PC hardware and software. rare and pleasant
@whitequark Glad you like it!
There are still some features not upstreamed in Linux, but to this day, we test every new MR in mesa to make sure we keep on improving the support and performance
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@azonenberg @whitequark how many LUTs could a smart fridge route in a hard day’s work?
