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  • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

    @Natasha_Jay ah non 1500!

    After, it's very difficult to understand for mi

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    @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

    Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

    Well I 'm lost until modern English

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      How far back in time can you understand English?

      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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      @Natasha_Jay
      Nope. Didn't even get to the first unfamiliar word before I got stopped by "sign up for our mailing list" garbage.

      Close tab.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        How far back in time can you understand English?

        It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

        "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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        @Natasha_Jay I stopped at 1200
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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          How far back in time can you understand English?

          It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

          "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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          #english #language

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          @Natasha_Jay absolutely amazing ! Thanks for sharing this little gem 🙂 !

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          • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

            @Natasha_Jay
            Nope. Didn't even get to the first unfamiliar word before I got stopped by "sign up for our mailing list" garbage.

            Close tab.

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            #18

            @leeloo @Natasha_Jay Substack = no boost.

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              How far back in time can you understand English?

              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

              "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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              #english #language

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              @Natasha_Jay Hard test! I'm reminded of this idea to warn people in 10,000 years, when our language has been lost, where we dumped nuclear waste.

              “They proposed we genetically engineer a species of cat that changes color in the presence of radiation. We release it into the wild to act as living Geiger counters. Then we create folklore and write songs and tell stories about these 'ray cats', the moral being that when you see these cats change colors, run far, far away.”

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              Ten Thousand Years - 99% Invisible

              In 1990, the federal government invited a group of  geologists, linguists, astrophysicists, architects, artists, and writers to the New Mexico desert, to visit the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant. They would be there on assignment. The Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) is the nation’s only permanent underground repository for nuclear waste. Radioactive byproducts from nuclear weapons manufacturing and nuclear power plants. WIPP was

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                How far back in time can you understand English?

                It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                @Natasha_Jay

                Mittelhochdeutsch for the win. 😉

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                  It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                  "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                  An experiment in language change

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                  #english #language

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                  @Natasha_Jay I couldn't make sense of more than a few words by 1400. I think the 1800s to 1900s are my stylistic sweet spot though.

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                    #english #language

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                    @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter This I’ve got to read, but it needs to be done on the Braille display. I’m currently working my way through the daily diary of a Brit named Samuel Pepys from the year 1666. As far as I know it’s presented just as he wrote it, and it’s fascinating to see how certain words have evolved from then to now. Also grammatical changes. If I tried to read it in audio it would be a slog.

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                      #english #language

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                      @Natasha_Jay Neat! Until 1500 it was alright, but no idea what to make of the weirder letters earlier on.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @Natasha_Jay Hard test! I'm reminded of this idea to warn people in 10,000 years, when our language has been lost, where we dumped nuclear waste.

                        “They proposed we genetically engineer a species of cat that changes color in the presence of radiation. We release it into the wild to act as living Geiger counters. Then we create folklore and write songs and tell stories about these 'ray cats', the moral being that when you see these cats change colors, run far, far away.”

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                        Ten Thousand Years - 99% Invisible

                        In 1990, the federal government invited a group of  geologists, linguists, astrophysicists, architects, artists, and writers to the New Mexico desert, to visit the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant. They would be there on assignment. The Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) is the nation’s only permanent underground repository for nuclear waste. Radioactive byproducts from nuclear weapons manufacturing and nuclear power plants. WIPP was

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                        @CiaraNi @Natasha_Jay Ray cats? Caves of Qud!

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          How far back in time can you understand English?

                          It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                          "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                          @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt I can read 1600 pretty easily, and mostly read 1500 slowly. For 1400 I can make out some sentence fragments, leading me to a very rough outline of what's happening in the story. For 1300 I can make out a few individual words and short phrases, but there's not nearly enough for me to understand what is happening. For 1200 I don't understand any of it.

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            How far back in time can you understand English?

                            It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                            "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                            #english #language

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                            @Natasha_Jay
                            I can't cope when the S's were F's…

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              How far back in time can you understand English?

                              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                              "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                              #english #language

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                              @Natasha_Jay

                              I'm not entirely certain what this comment means.

                              What is that, 5 seconds?

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                              • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @CiaraNi @Natasha_Jay Ray cats? Caves of Qud!

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                                @log @Natasha_Jay 🙂

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                                  It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                  "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                                  @Natasha_Jay 1200. Seems I lost the meagre Old English I learned in university.

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                                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                                    @Natasha_Jay Really amusing. I can experience the same with Italian, since it forked off from ancient Latin, and it has remained incomprehensible in the tens of dialects spoken today, unless you're a native speaker of one of them, that is.

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

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                                      @Natasha_Jay
                                      English is a pidgin confounded by and comprised of the languages of the many peoples that occupied that fertile green and pleasant land and many pedant scholars that tried to "improve" it.
                                      Once you get that it all, sort of, makes sense.

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                                      • commonst@social.vivaldi.netC commonst@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @Natasha_Jay 1200. Seems I lost the meagre Old English I learned in university.

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                                        @commonst @Natasha_Jay
                                        Same, though I found it easier as it went back past 1600 to read it aloud rather than in my head. Hearing it somehow made it easier for me up until 1200, at which point I didn’t know/remember enough of the words and pronunciation to even make that help.

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                                        • _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social_ _ryekdarkener_@mastodon.social

                                          @Natasha_Jay

                                          Mittelhochdeutsch for the win. 😉

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                                          @_RyekDarkener_ @Natasha_Jay
                                          I sent this link to my kids who’ve studied German. It’ll be interesting to see if they can get farther back than I did. They probably will.

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