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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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    @Daojoan The only?

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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      @Daojoan The whole lot of the Trump administration are comic book supervillains.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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        @Daojoan perhaps not coincidentally, "Peter Theil" is an anagram for "Hitler Pete"

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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          @Daojoan i'm rereading it for the umpteenth time right now!

          (But rooting for the good guys of course.)

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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            @Daojoan
            Haha.
            Hegseth, the only minister of defense who watched Pulp Fiction and deeply identifies with the character Samuel L. Jackson is playing, and in the scene where he shoots a man in the knee for saying "Wha'?"

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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              @Daojoan I fear this is not so. There is a whole genre of "Sauron was right!" fanfiction. I personally know someone who thinks Sauron was right, because he was industrializing Middle Earth (AFAICT). This person isn't even a techbro. But he is convinced the peak of civilization was the 1960s, because we built giant rockets to send people to the Moon, and will never reach those heights again.

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                @Daojoan I fear this is not so. There is a whole genre of "Sauron was right!" fanfiction. I personally know someone who thinks Sauron was right, because he was industrializing Middle Earth (AFAICT). This person isn't even a techbro. But he is convinced the peak of civilization was the 1960s, because we built giant rockets to send people to the Moon, and will never reach those heights again.

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                @oddhack @Daojoan As I recall, wasn't he militarizing it, not industrializing it? Eg no tech or anything, just building standard weapons and tools of war en masse.

                So yeah, he was scaling things, but not in a progress kind of way — just the opposite...

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                  @oddhack @Daojoan As I recall, wasn't he militarizing it, not industrializing it? Eg no tech or anything, just building standard weapons and tools of war en masse.

                  So yeah, he was scaling things, but not in a progress kind of way — just the opposite...

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                  @nazokiyoubinbou @Daojoan look, I just report it, not psychoanalyze it. N.b. the same person advocates for the Empire over the Republic because it brought order. Oddly he doesn't *behave* like a fascist IRL AFAICT, but every - *every* RPG campaign he's GMed over 30+ years has followed this imperial decline trope.

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                    @nazokiyoubinbou @Daojoan look, I just report it, not psychoanalyze it. N.b. the same person advocates for the Empire over the Republic because it brought order. Oddly he doesn't *behave* like a fascist IRL AFAICT, but every - *every* RPG campaign he's GMed over 30+ years has followed this imperial decline trope.

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                    @oddhack @Daojoan Lol, I guess what I'm saying here is that particular claim fails on its own and anyone thinking that is failing to comprehend the actual novels and just seeing what they want to I guess. It's not what actually happens in the actual books.

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                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                      @Daojoan The only?

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                      @dalias @Daojoan Palmer Luckey enters the chat.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                        @Daojoan jeff bezos had the rings of power made to spit in the fans face while having his own private sauron origins series.

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                        • oddhack@mstdn.socialO oddhack@mstdn.social

                          @Daojoan I fear this is not so. There is a whole genre of "Sauron was right!" fanfiction. I personally know someone who thinks Sauron was right, because he was industrializing Middle Earth (AFAICT). This person isn't even a techbro. But he is convinced the peak of civilization was the 1960s, because we built giant rockets to send people to the Moon, and will never reach those heights again.

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                          @oddhack @Daojoan Was he confusing Sauron and Saruman?

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                            @Daojoan So let´s send in the Hobbits.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                              @Daojoan I feel like there's actually another sinister US company that's named after a villain in the Lord of the Rings that's in the Fortune 500 or the top 100 US tech stock or something

                              its late and I'm very tired though, so the chances of me finding it art slim

                              but I swear a month ago I was like - oh shit, two!

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@infomaxkorea/116427974408714296

                                What "progress"? The only progress that I see is that one of the parts is whack-a-moling its way out of sheer panic and the other one needs a break to replenish the drones.

                                I shouldn't be placing high hopes (or fears) on the situation room thing, it is another crap manoeuvre to keep the idiotic markets sweet.

                                #Trump has been #Greenlanded by #Iran but knowing his intelect it will probably take another three months for the penny to drop. It is going to be a Cuban summer.

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                                • oddhack@mstdn.socialO oddhack@mstdn.social

                                  @nazokiyoubinbou @Daojoan look, I just report it, not psychoanalyze it. N.b. the same person advocates for the Empire over the Republic because it brought order. Oddly he doesn't *behave* like a fascist IRL AFAICT, but every - *every* RPG campaign he's GMed over 30+ years has followed this imperial decline trope.

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                                  @oddhack @nazokiyoubinbou @Daojoan It’s probably at least partially because that makes for a very easy setting for RPGs: a dying empire allows for a highly interconnected, yet diverse world that can have common languages, tools, and trade, yet the power vacuum means you can have enemy factions/big bads rampaging that the party can deal with, and it’s an easy tie-in to something deeper (“by the Gods! So this is who REALLY killed the Emperor!”, etc).

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                                  • whitecattamer@mastodon.onlineW whitecattamer@mastodon.online

                                    @oddhack @nazokiyoubinbou @Daojoan It’s probably at least partially because that makes for a very easy setting for RPGs: a dying empire allows for a highly interconnected, yet diverse world that can have common languages, tools, and trade, yet the power vacuum means you can have enemy factions/big bads rampaging that the party can deal with, and it’s an easy tie-in to something deeper (“by the Gods! So this is who REALLY killed the Emperor!”, etc).

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                                    @WhiteCatTamer dude, please do not mansplain a person I have known for 46 years to me on the basis of one paragraph of anecdote.

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                                      @Daojoan The PayPal mafia aren't fans of J. R. R. Tolkien nor „The Lord of the Rings.” Rather, they're fans of Кирилл Юрьевич Еськов (Kirill Yeskov) „Последний кольценосец” („The Last Ringbearer”), which while vastly more benign than its famous aficionados make it, reverses the roles of the good and bad guys.

                                      Peter Thiel was the guy who had René Girard (and several of his colleagues) tearing his (their) hair out until the day he died about how sinister the way Thiel twisted Girard's work has been. It seems likely to me that Yeskov himself feels similarly about Thiel's viewpoint on his work, though I'm unaware of any direct comments he might have made on it.

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                                        @Daojoan perhaps not coincidentally, "Peter Theil" is an anagram for "Hitler Pete"

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                                        @tomhead can't spell "THEIL" without "HEIL"

                                        @Daojoan

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          Peter Thiel: the only man who read The Lord of the Rings and deeply identified with Sauron

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                                          @Daojoan

                                          I had this weird thoughts some time ago that people who have deeply dark triad traits don’t interpret novels, the same way as most of us.

                                          Books rely on an intrinsic capacity for empathy and sympathy. I don’t know if people who are severely impaired read the same thing the rest of us would.

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