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  3. This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it.

This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it.

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  • badastro@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

    https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

    sassdawe@infosec.exchangeS viq@social.hackerspace.plV music_from_the_80ies@mastodontech.deM saltywizard@beige.partyS sanealex@mendeddrum.orgS 10 Replies Last reply
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    • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

      This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

      https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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      @badastro this was somewhat of a risk during the Kuwait war when all those oil/gas wells were on fire I think.

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      • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

        This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

        https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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        @badastro Neal Stephenson's "Termination Shock" seems awfully permissive of the idea and optimistic about the results 😕

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        • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

          This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

          https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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          @badastro Unpredictable results, as you write. What is the legal situation? Could some billionaire just do that or do international laws or regulations exist regarding the atmosphere that could prevent such actions?

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          • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

            This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

            https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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            @badastro

            some billionaire *is* doing it.

            cf. starlink

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            • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

              This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

              https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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              @badastro Sadly I think the #ClimateCrisis is already so bad if you understand that a lot of what we have already done will continue to have increasing effects over a large number of future years that we will now almost certainly need to use large scale #Geoengineering just to try to keep major areas of human habitation inhabitable. Neal Stephenson's Novel "Termination Shock" explores the concept & consequences of the particles in the atmosphere(& if you are very cynical like me assume is current plan of the fossil fuel companies as they have the piles of sulphur ready ) idea well. I agree with you that this is likely to have a lot of unforeseen effects some of which could cause even more unstable global tensions. For what it is worth when the governments of the world are forced to take action due to the increasingly high body count of the #ClimateCrisis I would go for a #Space mirror/s at Lagrange 1(if it could be dual use for a large space telescope🔭 all the better as we could have nice pics to look at whilst not burning to a crisp😜 ) as it would be much easier to remove/move a mirror than sulphur particles spread across al the Earths atmosphere.(And would not necessarily further enrich fossil fuel companies patching the consequences of their prior actions‼️ )

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              • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

                This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

                https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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                @badastro didn't anyone watch highlander 2
                Or the Matrix
                Or any number of dystopian scifis where this happens

                Of course they did
                They didn't understand it

                #TormentNexus

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                • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

                  This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

                  https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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                  @badastro

                  Captain Kaneda will have given his life for nothing

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                    @badastro Unpredictable results, as you write. What is the legal situation? Could some billionaire just do that or do international laws or regulations exist regarding the atmosphere that could prevent such actions?

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                    @Music_From_The_80ies @badastro "international laws and regulations" Chief Prosecutor of International Criminal Court had email and bank accounts blocked for daring to investigate a politician from a country *allied* to USA. USA has outright stated, and has I believe an official policy stating so, that it will send military to invade Hague were USA politicians to be investigated by ICC.

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                      @Music_From_The_80ies @badastro "international laws and regulations" Chief Prosecutor of International Criminal Court had email and bank accounts blocked for daring to investigate a politician from a country *allied* to USA. USA has outright stated, and has I believe an official policy stating so, that it will send military to invade Hague were USA politicians to be investigated by ICC.

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                      @Music_From_The_80ies @badastro With how tightly billionaires are tied with the USA government, trying to do something about them would be difficult.

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                      • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

                        This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

                        https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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                        @badastro

                        What about governments?
                        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/block-sunlight-british-scientists-global-warming-b2740295.html

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                        • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

                          This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

                          https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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                          @badastro

                          they'll justify the nuclear war they're starting by claiming that nuclear winter is required to bring the Earth back into sync

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                          • badastro@mastodon.socialB badastro@mastodon.social

                            This may be anti-hot take, but dumping billion of tons of particles into the atmosphere to block the sun is maybe a bad idea, which is why I'm very worried some billionaire will want to do it. Words by me.

                            https://badastronomy.beehiiv.com/p/dimming-the-sun-is-probably-a-very-bad-idea

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                            @badastro

                            That happened worldwide in the 15th century (iirc) and it was a massive disaster.

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