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  3. I've been thinking about this thread (link goes to final post) and its idea of a "Capital Strike" a lot for the last couple weeks.

I've been thinking about this thread (link goes to final post) and its idea of a "Capital Strike" a lot for the last couple weeks.

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  • A ahoyboyhoy@floss.social

    @jenniferplusplus @mcc what is the escalation from capital strike?

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    #31

    @ahoyboyhoy @mcc

    coup?
    Rebellion?
    Maybe hostage standoff?

    A strike is an extreme bargaining tactic, but it's still taken within the boundaries of a system. It's part of a demand for concessions. But they're not bargaining anymore. They're not satisfied with concessions. They're violently coercing our subservience.

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      @ahoyboyhoy @mcc

      coup?
      Rebellion?
      Maybe hostage standoff?

      A strike is an extreme bargaining tactic, but it's still taken within the boundaries of a system. It's part of a demand for concessions. But they're not bargaining anymore. They're not satisfied with concessions. They're violently coercing our subservience.

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      #32

      @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy So as a note, and without specifically agreeing or disagreeing with anything in your thread:

      A concept i've been working with for a while is that some of these startups— Uber, Spotify— are not "businesses". They're more like the economic version of *terraforming plants*. They're not intended to make money, or at least, not to make back the money they spent in being created. They are wealth being consumed in order to provoke a change in society which someone wanted.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy So as a note, and without specifically agreeing or disagreeing with anything in your thread:

        A concept i've been working with for a while is that some of these startups— Uber, Spotify— are not "businesses". They're more like the economic version of *terraforming plants*. They're not intended to make money, or at least, not to make back the money they spent in being created. They are wealth being consumed in order to provoke a change in society which someone wanted.

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        #33

        @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy I believe if you go back and look at interviews where the Uber founders describe their thought process in creating the company, this example is unusually blatant.

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy I believe if you go back and look at interviews where the Uber founders describe their thought process in creating the company, this example is unusually blatant.

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          #34

          @mcc @ahoyboyhoy ah yes, colonizing. How did that word escape me?

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          • bob@feed.hella.cheapB bob@feed.hella.cheap

            @mcc and even if the pension fund blows up the other major pension funds are doing the same thing so they can just blame "the macro environment" and demographics

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            #35

            @bob @mcc "if we all implode together, then we all get bailed out together"

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            • rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR rotopenguin@mastodon.social

              @bob @mcc "if we all implode together, then we all get bailed out together"

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              #36

              @rotopenguin @mcc that's the great thing about being a public sector pension fund, you're not the one that needs bailing out

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy So as a note, and without specifically agreeing or disagreeing with anything in your thread:

                A concept i've been working with for a while is that some of these startups— Uber, Spotify— are not "businesses". They're more like the economic version of *terraforming plants*. They're not intended to make money, or at least, not to make back the money they spent in being created. They are wealth being consumed in order to provoke a change in society which someone wanted.

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                #37

                @mcc @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy Had a bit of an "you think that's air you're breathing?" reading this. That's such a good lens to view... *all this* via.

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                  #38

                  @JohnSullivan @emaytch well, i'm convinced. where do i invest

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                  • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

                    @mcc @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy Had a bit of an "you think that's air you're breathing?" reading this. That's such a good lens to view... *all this* via.

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                    #39

                    @tehstu @mcc @ahoyboyhoy
                    🙏 that's the only reason I bother shouting into the void. Sometimes the void hears it and goes "whoa"

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                    • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                      @ahoyboyhoy @mcc

                      coup?
                      Rebellion?
                      Maybe hostage standoff?

                      A strike is an extreme bargaining tactic, but it's still taken within the boundaries of a system. It's part of a demand for concessions. But they're not bargaining anymore. They're not satisfied with concessions. They're violently coercing our subservience.

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                      #40

                      @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy @mcc (hostile) takeover? Conquest, subjugation? Seizure? Capture?

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                      • viq@social.hackerspace.plV viq@social.hackerspace.pl

                        @jenniferplusplus @ahoyboyhoy @mcc (hostile) takeover? Conquest, subjugation? Seizure? Capture?

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                        #41

                        @jenniferplusplus
                        And, between the various threads I saw today, out of https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/ jumps at me "colonisation".
                        @ahoyboyhoy @mcc

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                        • jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.ioJ jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io

                          @tehstu @mcc @ahoyboyhoy
                          🙏 that's the only reason I bother shouting into the void. Sometimes the void hears it and goes "whoa"

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                          #42

                          @jenniferplusplus @tehstu @mcc @ahoyboyhoy

                          Shortly after reading this, I read this:

                          Sven A. Schmidt (@finestructure@mastodon.social)

                          Just read this, you can thank me later. https://sightlessscribbles.com/the-colonization-of-confidence/

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