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[asm@is.beeping.pet]

@lea @marialeal gotta love drama between the okay browser and insufferable closed source chromium slopware

[hearts@pharmacy.puppygirl.icu]

@lea @marialeal @asm vivaldi is especially bad because they brand themselves like an open source, privacy focused option, and then deliver nothing but a ui reskin and a disappointing builtin feed reader / mail client

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@asm @lea @marialeal calling Firefox okay is factually incorrect

[can@haz.pink]

@diazona @marialeal I’m sure they asked ChatGPT to come up with a catch phrase and it picked Vivaldis (as pointed out in their response)

[woe2you@beige.party]

@asm @lea @marialeal The Chromium monopoly is easily as big a problem as forcing AI into everything.

[dfstarshine@icosahedron.website]

@marialeal Meh, let them fight. They both suck.

[asm@is.beeping.pet]

@ariarhythmic @lea @marialeal Firefox gets an okay cause you can make it good with a bunch of config tweaks. LibreWolf gets a good cause it does 90% of those config tweaks and more for you

[bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org]

@marialeal fouyouyou..

[badolwen@toot.wales]

@marialeal I'm sorry I just find myself thinking Vivaldi don't know what the term "hot take"means when used ironically. That term is used ironically a lot these days and it seems a little embarrassing to me for them to respond all butthurt to a bit of marketing. It's like social media changes brands into children.

[benjaoming@social.data.coop]

@marialeal too bad Firefox/Mozilla isn't in the Fediverse

[elexia@catcatnya.com]

@makesubarugayagain @marialeal that's not Matt Damon...

[thesdev@social.vivaldi.net]

@benjaoming @marialeal there's @firefoxwebdevs

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@berniethewordsmith @diazona @marialeal Likely via the automated plagiarism machine.

[tsadilas@libretooth.gr]

@marialeal lol

[hyperreal@tilde.zone]

@woe2you @asm @lea @marialeal

Chromium isn't a monopoly. Firefox and other browsers exist. Chromium does have the majority market share, tho, and I agree this is on par with the forcing AI into everything problem.

IMO Vivaldi gets points for avoiding AI. Only 5% of the code base is proprietary and it's only the UI. 90% is open source Chromium base. Vivaldi is privacy-friendly to the extent that they don't use and sell your data for profit. They've also built ProtonVPN into the browser and users can use the free tier without a ProtonVPN account. I think Firefox is inherently more privacy-friendly because it's not Chromium-based, and has the container tabs feature which Chromium-based browsers sorely lack.

Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox are better Firefox skins if you want no-AI and more privacy-by-default settings, but they don't have mobile apps.

[lea@lea.pet]

@hyperreal@tilde.zone @marialeal@social.vivaldi.net @asm@is.beeping.pet @woe2you@beige.party

They've also built ProtonVPN into the browser and users can use the free tier without a ProtonVPN account

i don't think cooperating with fascists is a selling point but you do you ​​

[hyperreal@tilde.zone]

@lea @marialeal @asm @woe2you Proton is audited. They're not fascists. If you are basing this opinion on the Twitter post from the CEO, then you don't understand cryptography lol. They can't access your data.

[lea@lea.pet]

@hyperreal@tilde.zone @marialeal@social.vivaldi.net @asm@is.beeping.pet @woe2you@beige.party yes because fascism famously means insecure cryptography

[hyperreal@tilde.zone]

@lea @marialeal @asm @woe2you I'm not sure I understand your reasoning then. How are they cooperating with fascists?

[k4t3@comp.lain.la]

@hyperreal @lea @marialeal @asm @woe2you you do realize that, as long as you use proton's webclient from proton dot me, they can just simply ship whatever code they want to you, with no good tooling on your end to audit that they are not sending a "tailored" version specifically to you, which will hand over your keys / mails / whatever you're seeing?