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  • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

    Play the anarchist piano!

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    @pluralistic I've jammed with Adam and can confirm he is the real deal, but certainly did not expect to see him popping up on fedi 😅​

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    • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

      Play the anarchist piano!

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      @pluralistic anarchist pianos have spike bracelets on the legs.

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        Play the anarchist piano!

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        @pluralistic

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          @Jaicup @pluralistic The piano going more and more out of tune as it burns is part of the piece.

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          • janschiefer@mastodon.socialJ janschiefer@mastodon.social

            @Jaicup @pluralistic The piano going more and more out of tune as it burns is part of the piece.

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            @janschiefer @Jaicup @pluralistic like so? > https://pixelfed.social/p/jacktrek/959012947973756053

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            • tarotbird@toot.catT tarotbird@toot.cat

              @pluralistic Anarchist music lessons are a great idea!

              I didn't realize until recently just how political the history of music education is. For much of that history it has been dominated by the theories of racist reactionaries.

              Adam Neely did a great introductory video on the white supremacist roots of music theory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA

              I'd love to see more radical music teachers.

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              @tarotbird @pluralistic "nobody could graduate from music academy who could not dance" omg, this is melting on my tongue. I want to be in that world.

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              • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                Play the anarchist piano!

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                @pluralistic
                Plus they're paying the same per-page for copies as everyone else, but using 10 times the toner. A small but subtle victory.

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                • arod@social.coopA arod@social.coop

                  @pluralistic fun fact: a self-proclaimed anarchist, Antonio Maggio, published the first 12-bar sheet music with "blues" in the title, in 1908. Fascinating story, detained without trial after McKinley was assassinated: https://www.bluescenter.com/2017/07/27/814/

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                  @arod @pluralistic «The genesis of “I Got the Blues” encapsulates the long story of complex interactions between European and African American musicians» that's a way too long euphemism "for white supremacy stole from black people all along".

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                  • c0rb34u@hostux.socialC c0rb34u@hostux.social

                    @arod @pluralistic «The genesis of “I Got the Blues” encapsulates the long story of complex interactions between European and African American musicians» that's a way too long euphemism "for white supremacy stole from black people all along".

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                    @c0rb34u @pluralistic I wouldn't say it's that simple. It also points towards how freedom-oriented people and practices influenced each other in urban space. Ben Barson's recent book _Brassroots Democracy_ is an amazing portrait of this era

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                    • arod@social.coopA arod@social.coop

                      @c0rb34u @pluralistic I wouldn't say it's that simple. It also points towards how freedom-oriented people and practices influenced each other in urban space. Ben Barson's recent book _Brassroots Democracy_ is an amazing portrait of this era

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                      @c0rb34u @pluralistic publishing industry, definitely racist though! The fact that he could have this "first" was of course overdetermined by skin color / racial caste

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                      • arod@social.coopA arod@social.coop

                        @c0rb34u @pluralistic publishing industry, definitely racist though! The fact that he could have this "first" was of course overdetermined by skin color / racial caste

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                        @c0rb34u @pluralistic interestingly, under immense pressure from society, Maggio later renounced both his jazz and anarchist past

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                        • arod@social.coopA arod@social.coop

                          @c0rb34u @pluralistic I wouldn't say it's that simple. It also points towards how freedom-oriented people and practices influenced each other in urban space. Ben Barson's recent book _Brassroots Democracy_ is an amazing portrait of this era

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                          @arod @pluralistic it definitely sounds that simple though 🤔 he told the story : white man heard a black man singing, asked for more information, got home, wrote down a caricatural version, signed and punished it and got all the money and credit for it. It doesn't make it better that he was supposedly an anarchist, on the contrary. It could eventually be of an intercultural nature if there existed a single example of a black person doing the same to a white person and not getting lynched for it.

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                            @c0rb34u @pluralistic interestingly, under immense pressure from society, Maggio later renounced both his jazz and anarchist past

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                            @arod @pluralistic "pressure from society" as in "making money and enjoying capitalism" or as in "he had to find a 'real job' to survive"? Genuine question

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                              @arod @pluralistic "pressure from society" as in "making money and enjoying capitalism" or as in "he had to find a 'real job' to survive"? Genuine question

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                              @c0rb34u @pluralistic can't know for sure but my guess is the latter. State violence is no joke and he got a heavy dose

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                              • pluralistic@mamot.frP pluralistic@mamot.fr

                                Play the anarchist piano!

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                                @pluralistic “I thought he said ‘Your piano needs tuning', but what he actually said was ‘Your piano needs Bakunin’.”

                                #NoGodsNoMaestros

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                                • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

                                  @pluralistic “I thought he said ‘Your piano needs tuning', but what he actually said was ‘Your piano needs Bakunin’.”

                                  #NoGodsNoMaestros

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                                  @angusm @pluralistic Learn Clair de Lune but without the threat of violins

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                                  • tarotbird@toot.catT tarotbird@toot.cat

                                    @pluralistic Anarchist music lessons are a great idea!

                                    I didn't realize until recently just how political the history of music education is. For much of that history it has been dominated by the theories of racist reactionaries.

                                    Adam Neely did a great introductory video on the white supremacist roots of music theory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA

                                    I'd love to see more radical music teachers.

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                                    @tarotbird @pluralistic I wouldn't exactly call him radical, but I love Farya Faraji's channel (and ethnomusicology is pretty rad). Really takes you out of the "vertical" harmonic paradigm of western european baroque-onward theory while explaining how it developed and more importantly what else is out there, and how Hollywood is in some ways just as bad for our perception of other cultures and their music. And there are so many other cool music theories out there!

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                                    • tarotbird@toot.catT tarotbird@toot.cat

                                      @pluralistic Anarchist music lessons are a great idea!

                                      I didn't realize until recently just how political the history of music education is. For much of that history it has been dominated by the theories of racist reactionaries.

                                      Adam Neely did a great introductory video on the white supremacist roots of music theory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA

                                      I'd love to see more radical music teachers.

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                                      @tarotbird @pluralistic
                                      Great video! The Ben Shapiro thing where he says hip hop isn’t music is hilarious and 100% racist. Sadly, I’ve heard Wynton Marsalis say basically the same thing.

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                                      • c0rb34u@hostux.socialC c0rb34u@hostux.social

                                        @arod @pluralistic it definitely sounds that simple though 🤔 he told the story : white man heard a black man singing, asked for more information, got home, wrote down a caricatural version, signed and punished it and got all the money and credit for it. It doesn't make it better that he was supposedly an anarchist, on the contrary. It could eventually be of an intercultural nature if there existed a single example of a black person doing the same to a white person and not getting lynched for it.

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                                        @c0rb34u @pluralistic yes, intercultural exchanges happened in the context of deeply unequal access to publishing, remuneration, etc. Copyright law itself is a product of this racism, as Matthew D. Morrison makes abundantly clear in his history of copyright and blackface minstrelsy, _Blacksound_. All I was pointing out is for light-skinned immigrants from places other than Northern Europe, this was not as simple as "white man steals credit from black man." First of all, Maggio would not have been considered white, and indeed the discourse on swarthy Sicilian anarchists at the time was racialized. Italian immigrants claims to whiteness through appropriating Black music really picked up a few years later with the Original Dixieland Jazz Band

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                                        • arod@social.coopA arod@social.coop

                                          @c0rb34u @pluralistic yes, intercultural exchanges happened in the context of deeply unequal access to publishing, remuneration, etc. Copyright law itself is a product of this racism, as Matthew D. Morrison makes abundantly clear in his history of copyright and blackface minstrelsy, _Blacksound_. All I was pointing out is for light-skinned immigrants from places other than Northern Europe, this was not as simple as "white man steals credit from black man." First of all, Maggio would not have been considered white, and indeed the discourse on swarthy Sicilian anarchists at the time was racialized. Italian immigrants claims to whiteness through appropriating Black music really picked up a few years later with the Original Dixieland Jazz Band

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                                          @arod @pluralistic thanks that's an enlightening observation : both narratives coexist without contradicting, as from the white hierarchical structure perspective of the times - which he's objectively a victim of - he is not a white us citizen, but from a BIPOC's perspective he is still a white person in the grand scheme of white supremacy. So the vile thief my previous comment may have portrayed is a bit caricatural.

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