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  • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

    @IngridHbn
    As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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    @kupac @IngridHbn As another biologist, I can tell you that most of the snails that appear on my terrace are not going to be there long after I have noticed them. How I pick them up is the least of their worries.

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    • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

      @IngridHbn I kinda knew this, and great to get it confirmed

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      @webhat @IngridHbn@mastodon.online apparently this is AI slop and not even correct.
      https://flipping.rocks/@nev/116131408308064605

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      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

        @petealexharris It's their house. So AISlop tells you to knock at the door. 😎 @kupac @IngridHbn

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        @NatureMC @petealexharris @kupac @IngridHbn my thought, exactly: AIslop generated misinfo-graphic.

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        • quasiabsolut@ohai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @IngridHbn wrong AI slop, take it down

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          • joopdelfijn@mstdn.socialJ joopdelfijn@mstdn.social

            @IngridHbn Gee, never knew that!

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            @joopdelfijn because it's not true, the image is AI slop. there are biologists in the replies who explain.

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            • saskboy@mastodon.ccS saskboy@mastodon.cc

              @IngridHbn I didn't know this before now.

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              @saskboy because it's not true, the image is AI slop. there are biologists in the replies who explain

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              • nexy@rebel.arN nexy@rebel.ar

                @IngridHbn ty for this, this is actually something that stressed me every time I need to move a snail

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                @Nexy it's not true, it's AI slop

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                • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                  @InkySchwartz
                  Thanks for the education. Don't some nails lose their lives in such processes?

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                  @nuwagaba2 By rerreating into their shells? No, because that is their evolved defence. By being grabbed like this, no unless maybe the snail is on glass or other super smooth man made surface. But the foot of the snail is not a suction cup but more like a sticky pad that is strong enough to hold but is not a glue.

                  I hope this helps.

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                  • nev@flipping.rocksN nev@flipping.rocks

                    @artcollisions @afewbugs Corroboration: https://www.google.com/search/about-this-image?img=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEXAOj_ChUI7qbwjsLF6rN3EMP5rbWr36XmjQHVbgZ_FwAAAA%3D%3D&q=https://www.facebook.com/groups/allcreatures1/posts/3203453276628751/&ctx=iv&hl=en-CA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM8uLr1fSSAxV7GjQIHdo0OVwQg4ILegUIrAIQDg

                    I *knew* I should have looked up the source on this one! But I was lazy. *facepalm*

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                    @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev it may be AI but it's still good advice so I redrew it.

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                    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                      @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev it may be AI but it's still good advice so I redrew it.

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                      @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev what I have learned from this is that I'm considerably better at drawing cartoon snails than I am at drawing human hands

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                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                        @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev it may be AI but it's still good advice so I redrew it.

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                        @afewbugs Question: in the third frame, what's the grey stuff below the shell? Is it supposed to be leftover slime on the ground, or do they retract their head and leave some of their body outside? (It's been a long time since I saw a big snail, and I can't remember what they do. For little snails, I seem to recall that they sometimes fall over after they retract their body.)

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                        • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                          @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev what I have learned from this is that I'm considerably better at drawing cartoon snails than I am at drawing human hands

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                          @afewbugs @nev lol! but hands are hard.

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                          • ninafelwitch@tech.lgbtN ninafelwitch@tech.lgbt

                            @webhat @IngridHbn@mastodon.online apparently this is AI slop and not even correct.
                            https://flipping.rocks/@nev/116131408308064605

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                            @ninafelwitch thanks for letting me know

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                            • inkyschwartz@mastodon.socialI inkyschwartz@mastodon.social

                              @nuwagaba2 By rerreating into their shells? No, because that is their evolved defence. By being grabbed like this, no unless maybe the snail is on glass or other super smooth man made surface. But the foot of the snail is not a suction cup but more like a sticky pad that is strong enough to hold but is not a glue.

                              I hope this helps.

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                              @InkySchwartz
                              It has indeed helped. Thanks for the knowledge and the enlightment. For how long have you been a scientist?

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                                @IngridHbn NO! This is not accurate information, this is AI SLOP!

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                                • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                  @IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences

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                                  @afewbugs this is ai slop.

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                                  • csgraves@turtleisland.socialC csgraves@turtleisland.social

                                    @afewbugs this is ai slop.

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                                    @csgraves @nev pointed that out downthread. The advice is still correct though so i redrew it https://social.coop/@afewbugs/116131701361234718

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                                    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                      @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev it may be AI but it's still good advice so I redrew it.

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                                      @afewbugs @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev I like this one better 😄

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                                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                        @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev what I have learned from this is that I'm considerably better at drawing cartoon snails than I am at drawing human hands

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                                        @afewbugs Priorities!

                                        @IngridHbn @artcollisions @nev

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                                        • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                          @InkySchwartz
                                          It has indeed helped. Thanks for the knowledge and the enlightment. For how long have you been a scientist?

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                                          @nuwagaba2 I'm a geography professor but not a biologist or ecologist. But I have been encouraged over my life to pay attention to the natural world around me. So I read, and listen, and try to ask good questions. And I use iNaturalist to help me understand the world around me.

                                          Also, I sometimes paticipate in citizen science projects.

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