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My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development.

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  • shadow53@floss.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development. Much of the company uses #GitHubCopilot or #Claude and #ClaudeCode, while AFAIK I am the only one refusing to use these tools.

    What are some recent studies I can reference about the harms of LLM use? I know there's stuff about deskilling, environmental harms, and code quality, but I won't have a chance to research specific studies until the end of my work day.

    #askFedi #NoAI #pleaseBoost

    jornfranke@social.anoxinon.deJ alcinnz@floss.socialA fundamental@social.treehouse.systemsF mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM 4 Replies Last reply
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      My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development. Much of the company uses #GitHubCopilot or #Claude and #ClaudeCode, while AFAIK I am the only one refusing to use these tools.

      What are some recent studies I can reference about the harms of LLM use? I know there's stuff about deskilling, environmental harms, and code quality, but I won't have a chance to research specific studies until the end of my work day.

      #askFedi #NoAI #pleaseBoost

      jornfranke@social.anoxinon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @shadow53 I would ask to measure that it indeed brings improvement and have additional validation (unit testing, static code analysis, fuzzing etc.) that it does not decrease quality. Static code analyzers give you also statistics on duplicated code and code complexity. They can be indicator that things go wrong. Additionally, you can collect number of incidents (if LLM would work they should go down).

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        @shadow53 I would ask to measure that it indeed brings improvement and have additional validation (unit testing, static code analysis, fuzzing etc.) that it does not decrease quality. Static code analyzers give you also statistics on duplicated code and code complexity. They can be indicator that things go wrong. Additionally, you can collect number of incidents (if LLM would work they should go down).

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        @shadow53 Then, there is the cost risk - all of them make a big loss at the moment (https://www.wheresyoured.at/premium-ais-circular-psychosis/). This means you will in the very near future pay 100-1000x more money. On top of that you will spend even more money because the more code you generate the more token you have to spend in the future for AI to go through your code.
        The cost risk is real: https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/ubers-anthropic-ai-push-hits-223109852.html

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          My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development. Much of the company uses #GitHubCopilot or #Claude and #ClaudeCode, while AFAIK I am the only one refusing to use these tools.

          What are some recent studies I can reference about the harms of LLM use? I know there's stuff about deskilling, environmental harms, and code quality, but I won't have a chance to research specific studies until the end of my work day.

          #askFedi #NoAI #pleaseBoost

          alcinnz@floss.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @shadow53 cc: @baldur

          He has https://needtoknow.fyi/ which might be handy.

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          • shadow53@floss.socialS shadow53@floss.social

            My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development. Much of the company uses #GitHubCopilot or #Claude and #ClaudeCode, while AFAIK I am the only one refusing to use these tools.

            What are some recent studies I can reference about the harms of LLM use? I know there's stuff about deskilling, environmental harms, and code quality, but I won't have a chance to research specific studies until the end of my work day.

            #askFedi #NoAI #pleaseBoost

            fundamental@social.treehouse.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @shadow53 https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills

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            • shadow53@floss.socialS shadow53@floss.social

              My manager is going to open a team discussion about #AI / #LLM use for software development. Much of the company uses #GitHubCopilot or #Claude and #ClaudeCode, while AFAIK I am the only one refusing to use these tools.

              What are some recent studies I can reference about the harms of LLM use? I know there's stuff about deskilling, environmental harms, and code quality, but I won't have a chance to research specific studies until the end of my work day.

              #askFedi #NoAI #pleaseBoost

              mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @shadow53

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              AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance

              AI Assistance Reduces Persistence and Hurts Independent Performance

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              (ai-project-website.github.io)

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