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open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

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  • chirpbirb@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
    chirpbirb@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

    • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
    • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
    • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
    • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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    like, holy shit, what a power move.

    dragonarchitect@rubber.socialD lunareclipse@snug.moeL lianna@micro.webgarden.clickL meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM kura@hai.z0ne.socialK 16 Replies Last reply
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    • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

      open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

      • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
      • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
      • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
      • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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      like, holy shit, what a power move.

      dragonarchitect@rubber.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
      dragonarchitect@rubber.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
      dragonarchitect@rubber.social
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      #2

      @chirpbirb Hot damn, yeah, that's a power move.

      I'm not sure how I really feel about that, but at the same time:

      All passion project software is provided as-is with no warranty, express or implied, and no guarantee of extended long-term support for any version past, current, or future.

      The creators and maintainers of passion project software can decide at any time to abandon the project for any reason.

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      • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

        open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

        • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
        • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
        • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
        • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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        Why there are no releases? · nvim-treesitter/nvim-treesitter · Discussion #8627

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        like, holy shit, what a power move.

        lunareclipse@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
        lunareclipse@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @chirpbirb damn maybe people will finally start not taking shit for granted

        alice@mk.nyaa.placeA cybersaloperie@woof.techC drwho@masto.hackers.townD solonovamax@tech.lgbtS 4 Replies Last reply
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        • frawst@fedi.fraw.stF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @pynk@mk.absturztau.be @chirpbirb@meow.social kojima youve done it again

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          • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

            @chirpbirb damn maybe people will finally start not taking shit for granted

            alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social nah, they will now shit on the maintainer

            then fork it and revert that commit, as well as rename main to master

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            • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

              @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social nah, they will now shit on the maintainer

              then fork it and revert that commit, as well as rename main to master

              chirpbirb@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @alice @lunareclipse ah, i can see the "feat(freedom): liberate repository"

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              • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

                open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

                • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
                • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
                • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
                • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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                like, holy shit, what a power move.

                lianna@micro.webgarden.clickL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @chirpbirb To be fair, making an at least somewhat functional plugin crash on some versions just because you don't officially support them is quite hostile and practically malware.

                Of course they can maintain whatever versions they want, and the other guy is a dick, but deliberately making it crash when users use it "wrong" is quite toxic. Especially for something as essential as a text editor. Livelihoods could be at stake 

                krig@goto.liten.appK srtcd424@mas.toS gsuberland@chaos.socialG drbrain@mastodon.socialD m@lgbtqia.spaceM 7 Replies Last reply
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                • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

                  @alice @lunareclipse ah, i can see the "feat(freedom): liberate repository"

                  natty@astolfo.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @chirpbirb@meow.social @alice@mk.nyaa.place @lunareclipse@snug.moe librevim - without the woke

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                  • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

                    @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social nah, they will now shit on the maintainer

                    then fork it and revert that commit, as well as rename main to master

                    alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    alice@mk.nyaa.place
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                    #9

                    @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social same as what happened with duckstation

                    the developer got so fed up with linux users he changed license to one that prohibits distribution (i.e. you can use the provided builds or build it yourself, but not package it) - and ofc linux users respected it and quietly left...

                    ...haha no, they declared the developer the devil, and were (and still are) like: I don't care, you can't stop me

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                    • natty@astolfo.socialN natty@astolfo.social

                      @chirpbirb@meow.social @alice@mk.nyaa.place @lunareclipse@snug.moe librevim - without the woke

                      autisticplushy@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @natty @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @alice wokevim

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                      • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

                        @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social same as what happened with duckstation

                        the developer got so fed up with linux users he changed license to one that prohibits distribution (i.e. you can use the provided builds or build it yourself, but not package it) - and ofc linux users respected it and quietly left...

                        ...haha no, they declared the developer the devil, and were (and still are) like: I don't care, you can't stop me

                        luana@wetdry.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
                        luana@wetdry.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @alice duckstation is a completely different story

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                        • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                          @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @alice duckstation is a completely different story

                          alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @luana@wetdry.world @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social how so?

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                          • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

                            open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

                            • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
                            • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
                            • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
                            • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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                            Why there are no releases?

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                            like, holy shit, what a power move.

                            meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @chirpbirb one of my very first interactions online was me bitching about how some version of a Linux audio driver wasn't working with my PC on a forum. I got a response that it was open source and to either pay someone, fix it myself, or shut up. I was 13 and that was 20 years ago. Some people aren't built for this open source life.

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                            • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

                              open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

                              • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
                              • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
                              • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
                              • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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                              Why there are no releases?

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                              like, holy shit, what a power move.

                              kura@hai.z0ne.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @chirpbirb@meow.social did that back then with a discord modding framework too.

                              too many entitled kids.

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                              • lianna@micro.webgarden.clickL lianna@micro.webgarden.click

                                @chirpbirb To be fair, making an at least somewhat functional plugin crash on some versions just because you don't officially support them is quite hostile and practically malware.

                                Of course they can maintain whatever versions they want, and the other guy is a dick, but deliberately making it crash when users use it "wrong" is quite toxic. Especially for something as essential as a text editor. Livelihoods could be at stake 

                                krig@goto.liten.appK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @lianna @chirpbirb If ”livelihoods are at stake” then they can do the most basic amount of work required, read the readme and just pin the commit they want. Come on.

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                                • chirpbirb@meow.socialC chirpbirb@meow.social

                                  open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

                                  • the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
                                  • the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
                                  • the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
                                  • the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

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                                  like, holy shit, what a power move.

                                  julia@meowing.menJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  julia@meowing.menJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @chirpbirb@meow.social

                                  this is insane

                                  i wish good luck and big patience for the dev in their future projects, honestly

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                                  • lianna@micro.webgarden.clickL lianna@micro.webgarden.click

                                    @chirpbirb To be fair, making an at least somewhat functional plugin crash on some versions just because you don't officially support them is quite hostile and practically malware.

                                    Of course they can maintain whatever versions they want, and the other guy is a dick, but deliberately making it crash when users use it "wrong" is quite toxic. Especially for something as essential as a text editor. Livelihoods could be at stake 

                                    srtcd424@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @lianna @chirpbirb bailing out with an error message is hardly "making it crash" - and at the end of the day how hard is it to click the fork button and revert that change? Bearing in mind this software pretty much guaranteed to be used by people with development experience.

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                                    • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

                                      @lunareclipse@snug.moe @chirpbirb@meow.social same as what happened with duckstation

                                      the developer got so fed up with linux users he changed license to one that prohibits distribution (i.e. you can use the provided builds or build it yourself, but not package it) - and ofc linux users respected it and quietly left...

                                      ...haha no, they declared the developer the devil, and were (and still are) like: I don't care, you can't stop me

                                      raven667@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @alice @lunareclipse @chirpbirb huh, funny coincidence in timeline https://s3kshun8.games/blog/flatpak-won/

                                      alice@mk.nyaa.placeA prophetscross@mastodon.socialP eobet@oldbytes.spaceE 3 Replies Last reply
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                                      • lianna@micro.webgarden.clickL lianna@micro.webgarden.click

                                        @chirpbirb To be fair, making an at least somewhat functional plugin crash on some versions just because you don't officially support them is quite hostile and practically malware.

                                        Of course they can maintain whatever versions they want, and the other guy is a dick, but deliberately making it crash when users use it "wrong" is quite toxic. Especially for something as essential as a text editor. Livelihoods could be at stake 

                                        gsuberland@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @lianna @chirpbirb

                                        > practically malware

                                        can we please stop saying this. it's patently not true and just waters down the term "malware" to the point where it's useless. there are other terms you can use.

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                                        • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                                          @alice @lunareclipse @chirpbirb huh, funny coincidence in timeline https://s3kshun8.games/blog/flatpak-won/

                                          alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @raven667@hachyderm.io that's a pretty good writeup

                                          i feel bad for the person who wrote it because of the kind of replies they will get

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