I know 8 trans people well and many more as acquaintances.
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I deeply object to the notion that G-d made me to test other people.
Like, wtf I can't even
@celesteh @Taco_lad @futurebird About 20 years before Roko's Basilisk existed, also before I'd heard of Pascal's Wager or Homer's Heresy (which refutes them both equally well: "What if we picked the wrong religion? Every week we're just making God madder and madder")...I recall some other little kid in West Virginia told me that the pretty seashell fossils in the playground aggregate were "sent" to test our faith, and I precociously blasphemed, what's the point of worshipping a God who plays tricks on us
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Patriarchy lets predators run wild. At this point I think it's basically designed to do that. You hear right wingers making so much noise about protecting children, but let that child be "imperfect" in any way ?
So upset about the exploitation of the innocent, yet no one is innocent enough to be a victim worth listening to.
"she's a disturbed woman with a long criminal history"
Said the press secratary about one of the Epstein file accusers.
@futurebird @wmd I'm pretty sure every single trans person I've ever met, even the ones who hate children, want to protect children more than any of these fuckers
I desperately wish we could protect children from being trafficked and abused, but the only people who have the power to "protect children" are only """protecting""" them from people like me -
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In my experience, LGBTQ people and their allies want it to be illegal to express yourself in a way that offends them, including misgendering.
Maybe it's different on your side of the pond.@light @futurebird have you actually heard a queer person say this was their opinion? Or were you told this by other people who are not queer? If the latter, is it possible someone somewhere has a vested interest in you falsely believing we're trying to take your freedom?
All I want is the ability to use the bathroom, live my life, and tell you if you call me the wrong thing. I don't want you to get arrested for it, I forget names sometimes
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@celesteh @Taco_lad @futurebird About 20 years before Roko's Basilisk existed, also before I'd heard of Pascal's Wager or Homer's Heresy (which refutes them both equally well: "What if we picked the wrong religion? Every week we're just making God madder and madder")...I recall some other little kid in West Virginia told me that the pretty seashell fossils in the playground aggregate were "sent" to test our faith, and I precociously blasphemed, what's the point of worshipping a God who plays tricks on us
When I googled Homer's Heresy, I got a bunch of stuff about the Homeric Question, but my hunch this was a Simpson's reference lead me to Wikipedia.
Anyway, G-d wrestling is categorically not blasphemy.
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When I googled Homer's Heresy, I got a bunch of stuff about the Homeric Question, but my hunch this was a Simpson's reference lead me to Wikipedia.
Anyway, G-d wrestling is categorically not blasphemy.
@celesteh @Taco_lad @futurebird Oh yeah I meant blasphemy in the Evangelical context I grew up in outside the home; we were raised Jewish, so the specifically Catholic theology of Pascal's Wager/Roko's Basilisk doesn't really translate. Judaism is "sola opera", which makes the intent behind good deeds irrelevant; no Hell, and Satans (plural) are God's subordinate employees. It doesn't really solve the problem of "but why evil" though, so the Jewish equivalent of Pascal's wager I think is Maimonides' Via Negativa (We doubt that God is entirely good, because we see humans doing evil; we're certain that God is not entirely evil, because we see humans doing good)...seems to me this ends up as encouragement to act in alignment with our beliefs while hoping for something better than the worst case outcome (we're trapped in a universe with an entirely evil God)...rather than altering our actions to perform belief out of fear of the worst case
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@celesteh @Taco_lad @futurebird Oh yeah I meant blasphemy in the Evangelical context I grew up in outside the home; we were raised Jewish, so the specifically Catholic theology of Pascal's Wager/Roko's Basilisk doesn't really translate. Judaism is "sola opera", which makes the intent behind good deeds irrelevant; no Hell, and Satans (plural) are God's subordinate employees. It doesn't really solve the problem of "but why evil" though, so the Jewish equivalent of Pascal's wager I think is Maimonides' Via Negativa (We doubt that God is entirely good, because we see humans doing evil; we're certain that God is not entirely evil, because we see humans doing good)...seems to me this ends up as encouragement to act in alignment with our beliefs while hoping for something better than the worst case outcome (we're trapped in a universe with an entirely evil God)...rather than altering our actions to perform belief out of fear of the worst case
@celesteh @Taco_lad @futurebird Anyway what I love about Homer's Heresy is how it tl;dr's that whole Reform Jewish lore dump in two sentences
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@futurebird Being gay is a far bigger part of my life than being trans. Because I walk around holding my partner's hand. Or giving her a hug. Or we smile at one another and pay for food together. It's easy for people to tell we're a pair of women who are together.
Trans? I'm in no way ashamed of it, and sometimes I have a trans pride something or another around. But most of the time? It's about as interesting of a part of me as where I went to college. Sure I still deal with the remaining body dysphoria, but so do cis people.
Just leave us alone and we'll be your slightly quirky neighbors who are a bit more empathetic to the plights of both genders than average.
I've often been curious about how people who are both transphobes and homophobes deal with couples like you and your partner. I won't pretend to be able to understand how their prejudiced minds work, but I would imagine their phobias should cancel out upon seeing a couple that they might think of as a man and a woman. yet I guess somehow they manage to accept the transition so that both phobias are triggered. if you don't mind my asking, is this what your experience is like?
CC: @futurebird@sauropods.win
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I've often been curious about how people who are both transphobes and homophobes deal with couples like you and your partner. I won't pretend to be able to understand how their prejudiced minds work, but I would imagine their phobias should cancel out upon seeing a couple that they might think of as a man and a woman. yet I guess somehow they manage to accept the transition so that both phobias are triggered. if you don't mind my asking, is this what your experience is like?
CC: @futurebird@sauropods.win@lxo @futurebird Well we're both trans, live in "good" states, and just cut people out of our lives if they're shitty about it. So we don't really know nor care what they think. They're just dead to us if they don't accept both parts of us.
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@lxo @futurebird Well we're both trans, live in "good" states, and just cut people out of our lives if they're shitty about it. So we don't really know nor care what they think. They're just dead to us if they don't accept both parts of us.
@lxo @futurebird plus "stealth" enough most strangers just say "eh more woman than man, well just assume gay over trans"
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@lxo @futurebird plus "stealth" enough most strangers just say "eh more woman than man, well just assume gay over trans"
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