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  • theantlady@arthropod.socialT theantlady@arthropod.social

    @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

    A7. Bell or voice, depending on the situation. I get chided by @scrottie if I ding my bell too enthusiastically, heh.

    #BikeNite

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    @theantlady @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Very culturally dependent. Honking in New York often means "get out of my way" or "I'm going when it isn't my turn and I'll run you over if you get in my way", and people in mid-state NY seem to interpret bike bells the same way. I see a lot of people basically leap out of the way. In Minnesota where people are a bit more chill, and apparently in Seattle too, people tend to interpret a ding as a "just letting you know I'm overtaking". So I use my voice in mid-state NY ("passing on your left"). California Birk Gilman trail is another example where there are so many people, bikes, toddlers, skateboards, ebikes, etc that it's pointless to warn people because there's a steady stream of passing bikes and the toddlers don't understand or care anyway. I think if I rode on a bike-ped path a lot, I'd do a spoke noise maker. Something to be said for Bluetoot speakers too.

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    • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

      @uxmark asks:

      Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

      Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

      #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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      @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite In regards to pedestrians I slow down, they tend to hear my downshifts and if they really aren't noticing me I use my voice. I don't have bells on my bikes. Bikes it's usually obvious how to pass but I'm not a speed racer. For cars I yield if they don't notice me when I need to cross, ride confidently, take up a lot of space, and always use lights at night. #bikenite

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      • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

        @uxmark asks:

        Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

        Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

        #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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        @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I will be switching to train horn on a cordless drill.... that should cover most situations

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        • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

          @uxmark asks:

          Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

          Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

          #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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          Q7. *When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?*

          If there is enough clearance to pass without it being potentially hazardous, I don't alert them, I just quietly go around. If there's less room and I have to pass closer, a bell, rung when quite a long way behind them.

          I will never yell, "On your left!" because it makes me livid when people yell that at me. By the time I finish jumping out of my skin and manage to parse what that incoherent blatting noise was, they're long gone.

          #BikeNite

          @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

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          • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

            @uxmark asks:

            Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

            Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

            #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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            @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

            From pedestrians and other cyclists, I just say hello

            If they have ear buds or otherwise cannot hear me, I just cruise along slowly behind them until they notice me. I am a patient person

            For motor vehicles, I use a long flagpole with something silly attached to the end. Artificial flowers, a small stuffed animal.... Something that people might notice

            I also will not cross in front of a vehicle until the driver meets my eyes. This is another thing that sometimes involves waiting

            Somebody in the turn lane, and looking down at their phone, I absolutely do not trust them. I've been hit before, multiple times, by drivers who turn after stopping, and without looking. I can yell, bang on their hood, anything. They are clueless

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            • isol@mastodon.auI isol@mastodon.au

              @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

              A7. Used to be using my bell, but the hubs in my Elite wheels are so loud that freewheeling as I approach often alerts pedestrians whom I'm approaching from behind.

              Considering a fly-ahead drone with rock band volume megaphone mounted on it, for the special case of centre-of-path-wandering headphone-wearers.

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              @isol @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Hah! This is something I like about riding on studded tires -- they're so loud they announce themselves.

              When I used to ride my kids to daycare & school, I played music for them on a BT speaker. (I've since forgotten all the music they wanted to hear, but it definitely announced, "kids coming!").

              I had a cheap battery-powered horn that made an "aaaOOOOgah" noise, but it was stolen last year along with my bar mitts.

              And the spring hammer on my little dinger just stopped working, so I'm left with my voice. But I rarely use it on a shared path, I usually just slow way down and hover annoyingly until the pedestrian notices me.

              #Bikenite A7

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              • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                @uxmark asks:

                Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

                Bell and/or voice for pedestrians, an air horn strapped to my bike fork for "you nearly killed me you fucking moron"

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                • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                  @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

                  Bell and/or voice for pedestrians, an air horn strapped to my bike fork for "you nearly killed me you fucking moron"

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                  @gbargoud @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I am wondering what would have been a better option when that Labrador nipped me.

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                  • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                    @uxmark asks:

                    Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                    Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                    #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                    @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Depends a lot on context. Folks in cars can't hear anything so I don't bother outside of waving like a maniac. For folks riding I'll ues my voice to let them know I'm passing, and for pedestrians it's mostly if they're being erratic on a multi-use path or I'm going very fast that I call out.

                    #BikeNite

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                    • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                      @uxmark asks:

                      Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                      Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                      #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                      @ascentale@sfba.social @uxmark@mstdn.ca @bikenite@fedigroups.social A7: I always use a bell when I pass other road users (i.e. people walking and cycling) on trails and in cycle lanes. I know some people say that they don't let their presence be known because an audible signal causes those they try to pass to behave unpredictably. That's never been my experience. I try to give adequate space when passing, too. #BikeNite

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                      • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                        @uxmark asks:

                        Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                        Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                        #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                        @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite

                        A7: if coming from behind, call out "on your left," (or "right") and have my Timber bell dingling. If approaching them face to face, voice as well and a wave, and I might declare which side, or say something nice.

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                        • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                          @uxmark asks:

                          Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                          Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                          #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                          @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I had used my bell generally for alerting anyone I'm passing but I noticed it would frequently cause folks to jump and panic slightly until they realize they aren't about to be run over.

                          Now I'll just announce as I approach "on your left!" Which does the job of communicating that I will be passing, that I've observed them and that they can safely remain where they are. Folks still often jump, but it's a much less panicked jump usually

                          There is one narrow bit on one of my local trails where the trail hugs the edge of a river under a bridge. The bridge blocks view of any pedestrians or oncoming bikes, so I'll typically ring my bell on approach and of course slow significantly to be ready to stop. I'm not sure how helpful the bell is (it may simply not be audible enough to be heard past the blind corners), but if nothing else it's an excuse to ring my bell!

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                          • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                            @uxmark asks:

                            Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                            Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                            #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                            @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. First of all, with always-on lighting.

                            Second, I have a bell that came with my ebike, although it's not a very good one, so I'd like to get Crane bells for both my bikes; my fitness bike doesn't have a bell.

                            I have also very seriously considered mounting a 12 V motorcycle horn to my ebike, because of motor vehicle drivers.

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                              @MarkBrigham @cainmark @bikenite @ascentale @uxmark A7 #bikeNite
                              I don't mind people on multiuse trails with headphones on, as long as they act like they are oblivious to their surroundings and kept to the far left and don't jump out. There are many who do it right, and some who are a menace.

                              It might help that the trails I use the most also have frequent horses, so acting stupid is as likely to get you trampled by a ton of horse as a bike.

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                              • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                                @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. First of all, with always-on lighting.

                                Second, I have a bell that came with my ebike, although it's not a very good one, so I'd like to get Crane bells for both my bikes; my fitness bike doesn't have a bell.

                                I have also very seriously considered mounting a 12 V motorcycle horn to my ebike, because of motor vehicle drivers.

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                                @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I forgot to mention that I ride in the street, so it's extremely rare for me to encounter anyone I would need to alert that isn't in a motor vehicle.

                                I haven't had access to a multiuse pathway since I moved out of Center City Philadelphia in 1997, when I used to regularly use the river drive paths along the Schuykill River and the trails in Wissahickon Valley Park.

                                Wait, I forgot my two years living in Seattle, 2012-2014, where I had access to the waterfront path.

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                                • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                                  @uxmark asks:

                                  Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                                  Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                                  #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                                  @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a trail bell which I unlock for constant tolling very very early. Dogs hear that very easy and don‘t get surprised and aggressive. People often have earphones in the ear so I will add a long and strong „Fahrrad“ -German for Bicycle- on a shorter distance. This works out pretty much happy faces as it is very uncommon. As I have path less pedalled for many rides this works out very well. Bells tended to startle walkers.

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                                  • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                                    @uxmark asks:

                                    Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                                    Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                                    #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                                    @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
                                    #bikeNite
                                    #bikeNiteA
                                    A6
                                    As most have said, bell and voice, depending.
                                    I have a third mode for people stepping out unpredictably into the bike lane - squealing disk brakes. It's got a couple of advantages - it's immediate. There's no brain involved trying to remember where the bell is.
                                    The other advantage is that it's LOUD and will cut through the best noise cancelling headphones.

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                                    • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                                      @uxmark asks:

                                      Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                                      Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                                      #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                                      @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Bells are legally required here, so I use them. I didn’t have one on my race bike for a while, and I see why they are required—they do a good job without being obnoxious.

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                                      • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                                        @uxmark asks:

                                        Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                                        Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                                        #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                                        @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Oddly enough, I was just dealing with trying to order an AirZound from the US this week. I wish I had thought to bring mine with me, but I didn't know what would be easy or hard to get in Albania, nor that shipping would be so incredibly expensive, hard, or even impossible.

                                        I use a combo of bell and AirZound. Bell for alerting pedestrians...more gentle. Airhorn for drivers. #BikeNite

                                        What you can do with a bulb horn: https://youtu.be/hgCqz3l33kU?si=_aKzhAo2clQVeDZc&t=108

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                                        • ascentale@sfba.socialA ascentale@sfba.social

                                          @uxmark asks:

                                          Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?

                                          Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?

                                          #BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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                                          @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
                                          A7: I use different notices by levels
                                          1. a bell if I'm at a prudent distance
                                          2. shouting a phrase if I get dangerously close
                                          3. the previous both mixed if I'm getting ignored.

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