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  • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

    LOL. From over at the bad site:

    An html email will crash Outlook.

    Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

    autinerd@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @wdormann The state of CSS is in the Microsoft Word HTML rendering engine in a very sad state in general ^^

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    • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

      LOL. From over at the bad site:

      An html email will crash Outlook.

      Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

      ki@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @wdormann
      well, tbf, html mail rendering has always been a security concern in general and nobody should have it enabled by default

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      • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

        LOL. From over at the bad site:

        An html email will crash Outlook.

        Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

        jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @wdormann There was something similar when Outlook 2013 was released (though IIRC, you didn't even have to open the message, just trying to download it was enough; and of course it happened on my boss' machine, figuring out which e-mail it was was fun).

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        • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

          LOL. From over at the bad site:

          An html email will crash Outlook.

          Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

          wdormann@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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          I'm no expert, but I get the impression that Microsoft Word is perhaps not the best choice for rendering HTML content.

          But what else is Outlook supposed to use to render HTML emails? 😂

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          • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

            LOL. From over at the bad site:

            An html email will crash Outlook.

            Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

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            jaj@mastodon.social
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            @wdormann We should never have put HTML into email. Markdown ok, but HTML...

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            • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

              I'm no expert, but I get the impression that Microsoft Word is perhaps not the best choice for rendering HTML content.

              But what else is Outlook supposed to use to render HTML emails? 😂

              scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @wdormann Internet Explorer 6?

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              • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

                I'm no expert, but I get the impression that Microsoft Word is perhaps not the best choice for rendering HTML content.

                But what else is Outlook supposed to use to render HTML emails? 😂

                autinerd@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @wdormann They could use the Microsoft Edge WebView2 engine 😄 But I think they would need to add all stuff to Microsoft Edge to not break mails which are written specific with Microsoft Word/Outlook in mind.

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                  @Taco_lad @scottwilson
                  I think that wwlib.dll (Microsoft Word) was indpendently developed from IE or any of the other web engines that may be present on Windows.

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                  • autinerd@chaos.socialA autinerd@chaos.social

                    @wdormann They could use the Microsoft Edge WebView2 engine 😄 But I think they would need to add all stuff to Microsoft Edge to not break mails which are written specific with Microsoft Word/Outlook in mind.

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                    @autinerd
                    How can one have an HTML email without mso-element support? 😂

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                    • wdormann@infosec.exchangeW wdormann@infosec.exchange

                      LOL. From over at the bad site:

                      An html email will crash Outlook.

                      Granted, it's "harmless" (stack overflow (exhaustion)), but I dunno... I sort of expect the act of rendering an HTML email that uses CSS to not crash my mail client?

                      sysop408@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @wdormann Microsoft Outlook started off pretty good, but it vaulted over every stage of decline straight to enshittification before it was fashionable and it will never not be hot garbage.

                      It’s so irredeemably bad in every way.

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                      • sysop408@sfba.socialS sysop408@sfba.social

                        @wdormann Microsoft Outlook started off pretty good, but it vaulted over every stage of decline straight to enshittification before it was fashionable and it will never not be hot garbage.

                        It’s so irredeemably bad in every way.

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                        @sysop408
                        You mean Outlook (classic) or Outlook (new)? 😂

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