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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

    @futurebird @Phosphenes @bovaz @aurochs

    I suspect that there are teens around here, but I think there are reasons they may not want to admit their ages, so it will be hard to tell how many there are.

    I occasionally search the hashtags for things my middle schooler is interested in and find fan art.

    To have the best chance of finding posts for a hashtag I search on mastodon.social as I think they've got the best visibility into the overall network.

    Some of the fan art associated with these topics, seem plausibly produced by middle or high school students.

    dandysworld - popular roblox game
    madoka / madokamagica - surrealist anime about magical teen girls.
    oc - making up and drawing original characters (OCs are so popular freelance art teachers on outschool often have classes about making OCs)
    projectsekai - mobile rhythm game with vocaloid music and a
    story.

    The reason I think teens are keeping quiet about their age, is they've frequently been warned of the threat of internet child molesters and are also aware of the current government fondness for age based legal restrictions.

    (AKA "Roblox sucks now", an opinion I suspect was caused by Roblox's new mandatory age verification for access to chat)

    A lot of Fedi does have the old internet culture of not revealing details of your age, sex, location, and I suspect that's a desirable feature among teens who are getting chased off the corporate controlled parts of the internet.

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    @futurebird @Phosphenes @bovaz @aurochs

    And more relevant to the rest of the conversation.

    I bet the lemmy/reddit style forums would be an easier UI for new people to get involved with, as it has a voting system to surface "better" content.

    As an example it's a pain to find good peertube videos, and at some point I stumbled on
    https://lemmy.world/c/peertube
    which is a feed of well made peertube videos.

    I bet it'd help if the fediverse both did do more curation like that, and also told people to go look at the curated boards to find people relevant to their interests.

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      @taylorlorenz @ryanc ive been shamed a bunch. for not adding alt text to memes

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      @Viss @taylorlorenz ah, yeah, the no alt text complaints are common. I just decided to add alt text or not post.

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      • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

        @Viss @taylorlorenz ah, yeah, the no alt text complaints are common. I just decided to add alt text or not post.

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        @ryanc @taylorlorenz im waiting for actual people who are visually impared to ask for it. because so far all the screaming is done by dipshits doing virtue signaling - and its those virtue signaling dipshits that are chasing people away

        they think theyre "helping".

        they arent.

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @ryanc @taylorlorenz im waiting for actual people who are visually impared to ask for it. because so far all the screaming is done by dipshits doing virtue signaling - and its those virtue signaling dipshits that are chasing people away

          they think theyre "helping".

          they arent.

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          @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz
          That's a strange argument.

          What you are basically saying is only affected people are allowed to fight for their inclusion?

          Only black people are allowed to point out anti black racism, only women are allowed to point out sexism, only LGBTQ people are allowed to point out discrimination?
          Everything else is virtue signalling 🤷🏻‍♂️?

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          • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

            @jesuisatire @bitpickup @taylorlorenz @futurebird @NickGates MAGA infiltrated. I felt safer here on Mastodon,where there's no algorithm and I can block.

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            @IveyJanette

            Prompt:
            ChatGPT, where do people from the afro american community feel safer in social media spaces like the fediVerse and why?

            @futurebird @taylorlorenz

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              Link Preview Image
              jeSuisatire neindochohh ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ (@jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de)

              Attached: 1 image #justSayin #mastodon @satire@tupambae.org

              favicon

              Mastodon (social.tchncs.de)

              @bitpickup @IveyJanette @mina @futurebird

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              • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                @NickGates @bitpickup @futurebird @taylorlorenz Yes. And I immediately block.

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                @IveyJanette

                #blackMastodon
                https://social.tchncs.de/@jesuisatire/115935782222161571

                @NickGates @futurebird @taylorlorenz

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                • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jan@social.dytrych.cloud

                  @janikvonrotz @taylorlorenz good point, but most of the users really don't care, they don't care their pictures are free use for big tech, they don't care that Meta AI is learning on pictures of their kids, learning on text statuses, etc. Now #Fediverse is not easy to discover, not easy to find friends, less users and less topics to discuss. I happy to be here and selfhosting my server, but it will need more work to be done to be competitive!

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                  @jan @taylorlorenz Remember when TikTok was banned, people started learning chinese. And now TikTokers are yery annoyed by Oracle.

                  The idea of ownership and unrestricted access matters. Don't you agree?

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                  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                    @taylorlorenz @amazing_joeyy

                    You should check out http://fedi.tips

                    The most important thing you need to do is follow people and hashtags to make sure your home feed is full.

                    If you make a post with the introduction hashtag and say something about yourself there then you can get a lot of recommendations that way

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                    @gbargoud @taylorlorenz cool, thanks!

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                      @taylorlorenz

                      I think it's possible that the best way to help people find their feet here is via people inviting their friends.

                      First, before you even mention it to them, figure out what'll be a good instance for that person, and (if they have a smartphone) a good app for their phone.

                      Then help them to get set up (easiest if it's someone you see in person), and introduce them "my friend joined, here's what they're into".

                      I think that's probably always gonna work better than, like, trying to advertise it big-scale.

                      #Fediverse #FediMeta

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                        @futzle LOL she did not reply nor did she hit "star" as one traditionally does to acknowledge you have read the reply. 🤪

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                        • realn2s@infosec.exchangeR realn2s@infosec.exchange

                          @Viss @ryanc @taylorlorenz
                          That's a strange argument.

                          What you are basically saying is only affected people are allowed to fight for their inclusion?

                          Only black people are allowed to point out anti black racism, only women are allowed to point out sexism, only LGBTQ people are allowed to point out discrimination?
                          Everything else is virtue signalling 🤷🏻‍♂️?

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                          @realn2s @ryanc @taylorlorenz to date, zero people who are visually impared have asked me to put alt text on a meme

                          but several dozen people who are claiming they are "fighting for the visually impared" have been fucking assholes to me because i didnt put alt text on a meme.

                          and your argument trying to equate me calling out people who are obviously virtue signaling with people who are racist has earned you a block.

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                          • hfinyow@mstdn.caH hfinyow@mstdn.ca

                            @erikcats @taylorlorenz and add geography/region to that list. I'm on an instance specific to Canada, mainly mstdn.ca. I've flirted with the idea of going over to ottawa.place but for now, I don't see a reason to move....I'm too casual a user of social media for the server I'm on to make a difference.

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                            @hfinyow it's ofc just an idea, needs a lot of work, as long as 4-5 screens of this lead to a relatively short list of suggested servers

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                            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                              @taylorlorenz I'm finding it hard to understand how it all works. I just fumble around hoping I'm not doing something disastrous.

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                              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                @taylorlorenz
                                hello, I have some thoughts I posted a few weeks ago that I think apply.
                                https://mstdn.social/@audrinabell/115805243694009255

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                                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                  @taylorlorenz stop letting the geeks and admins do PR. Nobody cares about platform details, or philosophy. (Well, the ones who do are already here).

                                  Make a way for non-tech users talk about their *social* experience here to unhappy users on other platforms.
                                  @ElbowsUpforDigitalSovereignty

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                    @taylorlorenz Who says "it" needs improvement or that it should strive to grow the user base?

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                                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                      @taylorlorenz Honesty. It's very hard to leave the addiction of TikTok. The Videos win over text.

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                                      • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                                        @bitpickup @OrionKidder @NickGates @futurebird @taylorlorenz I'm also on Bluesky.

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                                        @IveyJanette @bitpickup @NickGates @futurebird @taylorlorenz I think I need to get off soon if it's true that they welcomed ICE and Trump. That said, I'm hearing that that might have been faked, so I have to look into it more closely.

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                                        • bitpickup@troet.cafeB bitpickup@troet.cafe

                                          @andyinabox

                                          Hope you don't mind if I don't feel addressed by your statements as they don't refer in any way to what I expressed.
                                          🤷

                                          @OrionKidder @taylorlorenz

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                                          @bitpickup @andyinabox @taylorlorenz Yeah, it did:

                                          "The fact that influencer like you refuse to setup their own instances."

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