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I am just so tired of this "AI" shit.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    Huh. The act of typing this made me realize just how tired I am of all of it.

    It's so similar to crypto/web3 when for a year or two everyone kept telling me that I was just dumb or lacked vision or just didn't understand shit and when it all crashed as I had predicted, hurting the people I predicted in the way I predicted everyone just moved on to "AI". The same motherfuckers doing the same shit.

    Burns you out.

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    So yeah. Thanks for listening. I'm gonna crash. Sleep a bit.

    Tomorrow we'll get up and do it all again. What else is there to do?

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      @mttaggart Yeah. Especially seeing so many people who should know better bend the knee to big tech because the slot machine feels so good. Maybe that's part of it? Seeing so many people I respected and maybe even admired just throw it all away. It does feel like a form of betrayal. Even though of course none of those people owe me anything.

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      @tante @mttaggart Oddly enough, this toot reminds me of the time I got blocked by one of the German "Wirtschaftsweisen" on Twitter for pointing out some of my observations* about Blockchain and smart contracts.

      * Rather simple observations, mind you.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        @mttaggart Yeah. Especially seeing so many people who should know better bend the knee to big tech because the slot machine feels so good. Maybe that's part of it? Seeing so many people I respected and maybe even admired just throw it all away. It does feel like a form of betrayal. Even though of course none of those people owe me anything.

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        @tante @mttaggart Betrayal is precisely one of the main feelings - of course like you say not because anyone owes you anything but rather because for a brief moment of time we* had the power to shape our own destinies without having influence or capital.

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        • vladimir_lu@hachyderm.ioV vladimir_lu@hachyderm.io

          @tante @mttaggart Betrayal is precisely one of the main feelings - of course like you say not because anyone owes you anything but rather because for a brief moment of time we* had the power to shape our own destinies without having influence or capital.

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          @vladimir_lu @tante Betrayal and a feeling like the world is asking me to accept something I know in my bones to be wrong.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116082694984669549

            I am just so tired of this "AI" shit. Truly. Not just the extra maintenance burden on my but the constant discussions that lead nowhere. I can keep making the same arguments against using "AI" for anything relevant from here till the cows come home but it's not gonna change people's opinion. Because they are "on AI" or their bosses force it upon them or whatever.

            But honestly. It's all been said. Neither does the tech change significantly (regardless of what the boosters tell you) nor do the other facts at hand, the brain and skill atrophy, the exploitation, the ecological impact, etc. etc. etc.

            Dunno. It's hard to keep doing this whole "keep making your point and maybe some people will change their mind thing" when the facts are all on the table and people just have made decisions I find morally questionable.

            Maybe I am just tired. Will keep doing the same shit tomorrow. Keep running against that concrete wall hoping that it will somehow crumble.

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            @tante

            "AI" is no different (in this respect) from the adtech surveillance thing. People screamed and screamed about the risks to society. Zuboff wrote years ago the definitive book on #surveillancecapitalism but the odious engine is still more or less intact, printing billions of profits every quarter, buying the souls of regulators, politicians etc.

            Except... there are a few cracks here and there. You never know when they might grow and the whole damn immoral construct gets washed away.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              Huh. The act of typing this made me realize just how tired I am of all of it.

              It's so similar to crypto/web3 when for a year or two everyone kept telling me that I was just dumb or lacked vision or just didn't understand shit and when it all crashed as I had predicted, hurting the people I predicted in the way I predicted everyone just moved on to "AI". The same motherfuckers doing the same shit.

              Burns you out.

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              @tante wenn du magst

              🫂

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              • threesigma@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tante @mike805 @ftranschel
                A good search should get you the same thing. It DID get you that before google enshittified, and that’s almost certainly where the AI got it.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116082694984669549

                  I am just so tired of this "AI" shit. Truly. Not just the extra maintenance burden on my but the constant discussions that lead nowhere. I can keep making the same arguments against using "AI" for anything relevant from here till the cows come home but it's not gonna change people's opinion. Because they are "on AI" or their bosses force it upon them or whatever.

                  But honestly. It's all been said. Neither does the tech change significantly (regardless of what the boosters tell you) nor do the other facts at hand, the brain and skill atrophy, the exploitation, the ecological impact, etc. etc. etc.

                  Dunno. It's hard to keep doing this whole "keep making your point and maybe some people will change their mind thing" when the facts are all on the table and people just have made decisions I find morally questionable.

                  Maybe I am just tired. Will keep doing the same shit tomorrow. Keep running against that concrete wall hoping that it will somehow crumble.

                  threesigma@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante The act of putting up resistance is valuable in itself. It makes others of us feel less alone, and keeps at least some pressure on the adopters that they still have to defend their choices. Our mistakes in the past were sometimes allowing things to seem inevitable.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    So yeah. Thanks for listening. I'm gonna crash. Sleep a bit.

                    Tomorrow we'll get up and do it all again. What else is there to do?

                    hope_n_beauty@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @tante Can't say "I feel you", but I feel the tiredness.
                    I wish someone w/b there with you, just to give you a long hug before you go to sleep. 😔
                    Thanks for the things you are doing and writing...

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      So yeah. Thanks for listening. I'm gonna crash. Sleep a bit.

                      Tomorrow we'll get up and do it all again. What else is there to do?

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                      @tante

                      ⬇️
                      https://bsky.app/profile/bethsawin.bsky.social/post/3mevpmqnjzc2u

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116082694984669549

                        I am just so tired of this "AI" shit. Truly. Not just the extra maintenance burden on my but the constant discussions that lead nowhere. I can keep making the same arguments against using "AI" for anything relevant from here till the cows come home but it's not gonna change people's opinion. Because they are "on AI" or their bosses force it upon them or whatever.

                        But honestly. It's all been said. Neither does the tech change significantly (regardless of what the boosters tell you) nor do the other facts at hand, the brain and skill atrophy, the exploitation, the ecological impact, etc. etc. etc.

                        Dunno. It's hard to keep doing this whole "keep making your point and maybe some people will change their mind thing" when the facts are all on the table and people just have made decisions I find morally questionable.

                        Maybe I am just tired. Will keep doing the same shit tomorrow. Keep running against that concrete wall hoping that it will somehow crumble.

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                        @tante

                        wazuh?

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116082694984669549

                          I am just so tired of this "AI" shit. Truly. Not just the extra maintenance burden on my but the constant discussions that lead nowhere. I can keep making the same arguments against using "AI" for anything relevant from here till the cows come home but it's not gonna change people's opinion. Because they are "on AI" or their bosses force it upon them or whatever.

                          But honestly. It's all been said. Neither does the tech change significantly (regardless of what the boosters tell you) nor do the other facts at hand, the brain and skill atrophy, the exploitation, the ecological impact, etc. etc. etc.

                          Dunno. It's hard to keep doing this whole "keep making your point and maybe some people will change their mind thing" when the facts are all on the table and people just have made decisions I find morally questionable.

                          Maybe I am just tired. Will keep doing the same shit tomorrow. Keep running against that concrete wall hoping that it will somehow crumble.

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                          @tante I understand the sentiment, it is so very, very tiring.

                          Yet, I hold out hope, because I have seen the future.

                          Our twins are second year in elementary, their teacher used to use ChatGPT to give them homework. The assignments were full of misspellings and other errors (ChatGPT sucks at Hungarian). We helped the kids correct those mistakes, and when they showed their homework, the teacher saw the red lines under the mistakes, and the corrections - also in red. Kids didn't say anything. Didn't call her out. They made her uncomfortable.

                          By the next week, the entire class was doing this, and the teacher stopped using ChatGPT. By the end of the month, the entire school was having great fun correcting AI mistakes.

                          Today, "AI", for the kids, is synonymous with "liar", "idiot", "wrong", "bad". And they teach it to their parents. I've seen some of them turn, and it's becoming harder and harder to be pro-AI in our little town. Being one is considered ridiculous.

                          It's a small thing. But it gives me hope.

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