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  • phocks@bne.socialP phocks@bne.social

    And here he is in this interview repeating the same quote. Really great chat. Pretty much the only "economist" I've heard who actually makes sense when talking about this stuff.

    Interesting to hear him talking about "building your way out of the housing crisis" like what all the politicians are saying and how it absolutely will never work.

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    Could we solve the housing crisis in Australia by increasing taxes on the extremely rich and targeting mining giants’ profits?  Today, British economist, former trader and YouTube star Gary Stevenson on why a wealth tax could work to end growing inequality and fix our housing problem.  He explains why rising inequality could lead to deteriorating living standards and leave Australians living in slums.  Featured:  Gary Stevenson, economist and host of Gary’s Economics

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    @phocks I ran into this solution the ancient Greeks used, reading up on Aristotle. Metic: the idea of tying citizenship to land ownership. This meant Aristotle had to rent property. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metic>

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    • phocks@bne.socialP phocks@bne.social

      And here he is in this interview repeating the same quote. Really great chat. Pretty much the only "economist" I've heard who actually makes sense when talking about this stuff.

      Interesting to hear him talking about "building your way out of the housing crisis" like what all the politicians are saying and how it absolutely will never work.

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      How a wealth tax could fix the housing crisis - ABC listen

      Could we solve the housing crisis in Australia by increasing taxes on the extremely rich and targeting mining giants’ profits?  Today, British economist, former trader and YouTube star Gary Stevenson on why a wealth tax could work to end growing inequality and fix our housing problem.  He explains why rising inequality could lead to deteriorating living standards and leave Australians living in slums.  Featured:  Gary Stevenson, economist and host of Gary’s Economics

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      ABC listen (www.abc.net.au)

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      @phocks

      Gary Stevenson is a force of nature. Compelling arguments on inequality and how the rich are stealing everything from the poor. I don't think our govts care of course.
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      • phocks@bne.socialP phocks@bne.social

        And here he is in this interview repeating the same quote. Really great chat. Pretty much the only "economist" I've heard who actually makes sense when talking about this stuff.

        Interesting to hear him talking about "building your way out of the housing crisis" like what all the politicians are saying and how it absolutely will never work.

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        How a wealth tax could fix the housing crisis - ABC listen

        Could we solve the housing crisis in Australia by increasing taxes on the extremely rich and targeting mining giants’ profits?  Today, British economist, former trader and YouTube star Gary Stevenson on why a wealth tax could work to end growing inequality and fix our housing problem.  He explains why rising inequality could lead to deteriorating living standards and leave Australians living in slums.  Featured:  Gary Stevenson, economist and host of Gary’s Economics

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        ABC listen (www.abc.net.au)

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        This full segment is worth a watch too.

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        You need to have politicians who are willing to prepare in the long term to fix serious problems. Nobody is dealing with this growing inequality. They're not even starting to deal with how do we design the tax.

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        • phocks@bne.socialP phocks@bne.social

          This full segment is worth a watch too.

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          You need to have politicians who are willing to prepare in the long term to fix serious problems. Nobody is dealing with this growing inequality. They're not even starting to deal with how do we design the tax.

          - YouTube

          Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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          @phocks

          The longer they wait the more that will be hurt

          Hugz & xXx

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          • ewen@social.ewenbell.comE ewen@social.ewenbell.com
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            Gary Stevenson is a force of nature. Compelling arguments on inequality and how the rich are stealing everything from the poor. I don't think our govts care of course.
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            I notice myself and others responding to these ideas with "when will the govt do something about this?"

            And we know the govt won't do anything. They have no interest in changing the current power structures. So then we ask, when will the media turn on the govt to demand better? And of course that will never happen because the billionaires own the media and that is entirely the point.

            So long as you have creeps like David Koch running morning television we cannot expect the media to hold a candle to reality.

            But the internet gives some ray of hope. Seeing you post these ideas here on the Fediverse gives even more hope. A world where billionaires no longer control the media. Yes, it seems dangerous and reckless to let unfettered misinformation fill the void. But there is also room for community and solidarity and wisdom to flourish.

            Which brings me back to the idea of "when will they do something about inequality". And I wonder who "they" actually are. Because really, "they" is us. We are the only ones who will do something about it. And I want to do more than just listen to a bloke from England. How do I change the system so we really do get a better govt???
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            • ewen@social.ewenbell.comE ewen@social.ewenbell.com
              @phocks

              I notice myself and others responding to these ideas with "when will the govt do something about this?"

              And we know the govt won't do anything. They have no interest in changing the current power structures. So then we ask, when will the media turn on the govt to demand better? And of course that will never happen because the billionaires own the media and that is entirely the point.

              So long as you have creeps like David Koch running morning television we cannot expect the media to hold a candle to reality.

              But the internet gives some ray of hope. Seeing you post these ideas here on the Fediverse gives even more hope. A world where billionaires no longer control the media. Yes, it seems dangerous and reckless to let unfettered misinformation fill the void. But there is also room for community and solidarity and wisdom to flourish.

              Which brings me back to the idea of "when will they do something about inequality". And I wonder who "they" actually are. Because really, "they" is us. We are the only ones who will do something about it. And I want to do more than just listen to a bloke from England. How do I change the system so we really do get a better govt???
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              @ewen exactly!

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              • ewen@social.ewenbell.comE ewen@social.ewenbell.com
                @phocks

                I notice myself and others responding to these ideas with "when will the govt do something about this?"

                And we know the govt won't do anything. They have no interest in changing the current power structures. So then we ask, when will the media turn on the govt to demand better? And of course that will never happen because the billionaires own the media and that is entirely the point.

                So long as you have creeps like David Koch running morning television we cannot expect the media to hold a candle to reality.

                But the internet gives some ray of hope. Seeing you post these ideas here on the Fediverse gives even more hope. A world where billionaires no longer control the media. Yes, it seems dangerous and reckless to let unfettered misinformation fill the void. But there is also room for community and solidarity and wisdom to flourish.

                Which brings me back to the idea of "when will they do something about inequality". And I wonder who "they" actually are. Because really, "they" is us. We are the only ones who will do something about it. And I want to do more than just listen to a bloke from England. How do I change the system so we really do get a better govt???
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                @ewen @phocks Start writing letters to your MP and organising others to do the same to their MPs (especially if they’re in govt) if they’re all hearing the same thing then it will start to get traction. Estate tax, wealth tax, UBI and dental in Medicare would be amazing.

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                • danwwilson@rstats.meD danwwilson@rstats.me

                  @ewen @phocks Start writing letters to your MP and organising others to do the same to their MPs (especially if they’re in govt) if they’re all hearing the same thing then it will start to get traction. Estate tax, wealth tax, UBI and dental in Medicare would be amazing.

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                  @ewen @phocks To do this effectively it does need some organising group to help people know who to write to and what to write for maximum effect. So, do we start a movement like Amnesty but for equity in Australia?

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                  • danwwilson@rstats.meD danwwilson@rstats.me

                    @ewen @phocks Start writing letters to your MP and organising others to do the same to their MPs (especially if they’re in govt) if they’re all hearing the same thing then it will start to get traction. Estate tax, wealth tax, UBI and dental in Medicare would be amazing.

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                    @danwwilson @phocks

                    Sorry to be a downer here, but I have little faith in the democratic system while the media is so wonky. Govts so rarely give two shits about their constituents. They care more about their donors.

                    The veneer of democracy is very very thin.
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                    • ewen@social.ewenbell.comE ewen@social.ewenbell.com
                      @danwwilson @phocks

                      Sorry to be a downer here, but I have little faith in the democratic system while the media is so wonky. Govts so rarely give two shits about their constituents. They care more about their donors.

                      The veneer of democracy is very very thin.
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                      @ewen @phocks Fair, but you’ve got to start somewhere and if you were given hope by Josh’s post, there are a lot of people also wanting that hope.

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                      • danwwilson@rstats.meD danwwilson@rstats.me

                        @ewen @phocks Fair, but you’ve got to start somewhere and if you were given hope by Josh’s post, there are a lot of people also wanting that hope.

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                        @danwwilson @phocks

                        Hope yes. For me, hope is to change the system. I have been saying this my whole life. You can't put good people into a bad system and expect things to go well.

                        I want to change the system. That is my hope.
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