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free open source software needs fewer engineers and more designers and product people

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  • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

    free open source software needs fewer engineers and more designers and product people

    m000gletje@app.wafrn.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #15

    plenty of foss has a problem of being stuck in a cycle

    fossbros want their shit adapted by average joes and yell about year of linux, but it often isn't because plenty of foss is by nerds for nerds, and said average joes are more often than not deemed second class users that shouldn't be cared about because "they have a skill issue"

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    • inscript@merveilles.townI inscript@merveilles.town

      @TodePond you could totally be right but one side 'being able' to do the other is what I think excites me about intentionality in computer shit. i dont have enough experience with programmers to want to exclude them from another practice, and i dont think ive ever worked with someonecwho would identify with the term 'designer', I just know 'needing to pick' between one or the other confuses me and makes me less likely to do both.

      todepond@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @inscript you should meet some designers!

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      • m000gletje@app.wafrn.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        i see too many fossbros say we should trade convenience for privacy (which honestly starts turning into a buzzword to fire neurons in people's brains), and i just sit there thinking maybe in such an advanced society aspiring to a stable, peaceful and fulfilling life, we shouldn't trade shit one for another

        but try telling them that, they'll call you illiterate and lazy for not wanting to be a sysadmin of your own empire

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        • m000gletje@app.wafrn.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          tbf if said request comes from someone who actually has the capability and skills to contribute themself that's a reasonable thing to say

          but of course that's only a minority of cases where that happens

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            #19

            look, i've had my ride with trying to be a sysadmin, sure it's fun to have your own services you can fuck around in without the approval of anyone

            but it shouldn't be a necessity and rather something you can get into if you want

            actually foss/generally tech nerds should be forced to go outside, touch grass and interact with the normies so they can get off their imaginary selfhosted planet and get a grip on reality

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            • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

              free open source software needs fewer engineers and more designers and product people

              yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @TodePond I guess without large amount of state funding it's not going to happen, especially from an accessibility standpoint.. Until then I guess we have to make do with people mostly making software for themselves

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              • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                @TodePond I guess without large amount of state funding it's not going to happen, especially from an accessibility standpoint.. Until then I guess we have to make do with people mostly making software for themselves

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                #21

                @yaxu strongly disagree! there are huge incentives for designers and product people to get involved with volunteering, just like programmers.

                and yes accessibility is a huge factor of this. getting design and product-oriented people involved means software becomes accessible to more people

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                • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

                  free open source software needs fewer engineers and more designers and product people

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                  @TodePond@mas.to and technical writer

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                  • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

                    free open source software needs fewer engineers and more designers and product people

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                    #23

                    @TodePond@mas.to FOSS engineers at the very concept of UX: ​​

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                    • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

                      @yaxu strongly disagree! there are huge incentives for designers and product people to get involved with volunteering, just like programmers.

                      and yes accessibility is a huge factor of this. getting design and product-oriented people involved means software becomes accessible to more people

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                      #24

                      @TodePond Fair enough, I should be more optimistic!

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                      • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

                        we gave the tech nerds too much power

                        arcade@merveilles.townA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @TodePond this is true in many fields

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                        • todepond@mas.toT todepond@mas.to

                          @yaxu strongly disagree! there are huge incentives for designers and product people to get involved with volunteering, just like programmers.

                          and yes accessibility is a huge factor of this. getting design and product-oriented people involved means software becomes accessible to more people

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                          @TodePond what are the incentives?

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