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  3. I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

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  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC This user is from outside of this forum
    chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC This user is from outside of this forum
    chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca
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    #27

    @sylvie i believe you are incorrect.

    my post is very obviously identifiable including my name and any information. Nothing on Mastodon is encrypted, during transport or otherwise.

    by contrast, information sent to Apple is encrypted in transport and “Any information sent to Apple does not identify you, and is associated with a 15-minute random, rotating device-generated identifier.”

    "This information does not include search results that show files or content on your device.”

    "Your account name, number, and password will not be sent to Apple.”

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    • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

      @sylvie i believe you are incorrect.

      my post is very obviously identifiable including my name and any information. Nothing on Mastodon is encrypted, during transport or otherwise.

      by contrast, information sent to Apple is encrypted in transport and “Any information sent to Apple does not identify you, and is associated with a 15-minute random, rotating device-generated identifier.”

      "This information does not include search results that show files or content on your device.”

      "Your account name, number, and password will not be sent to Apple.”

      sylvie@chitter.xyzS This user is from outside of this forum
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      sylvie@chitter.xyz
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      #28

      @chris you are using a web browser, right? HTTPS is encrypted and the only identifiable information exchanged is your IP address (which isnt actually your IP address, we ran out of those years ago, and some sort of an IP address is needed to use the internet in the first place so its impossible not to send one), anyone viewing the encrypted traffic will not be able to idenify you from it, they can only idenify you from seeing your post, which is not the traffic which is encrypted, this is what apple encrypts, the traffic, the underlying request gets decrypted when it reaches apple

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      • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

        It's even worse than I thought, it even transmits your current (accurate!) geolocation. Can't even show this to you because I'd dox myself without editing the video. 🔥

        tanzureir@rubber.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @NikTheDusky damn yeah it IS buried deep in privacy and security -> location service -> system service -> suggestion and search. Somehow i have all the related options turned off already. I guess my habit of fully exploring the settings before using a device is paying off

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        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

          @NikTheDusky Apple is like: we care about your user experience, so we installed a keylogger on your device

          draken@masto.nycD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @schratze @NikTheDusky
          I'm pretty sure @ashleygjovik already posted a lot on that topic.

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          • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

            I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

            Every. Single. Keystroke. Instantly.

            Just searching for a contact, an appointment or a local file? Doesn’t matter, it gets sent to Apple anyways.

            You probably want to turn this off!
            Go to Settings -> Search and disable „show related content“.
            This disables web search in the launcher, but what do we have browsers for?

            reemt@woof.groupR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @NikTheDusky I’m somewhat remembering having agreed to something that might be this very feature. Are you sure that it is enabled by default?

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            • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

              I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

              Every. Single. Keystroke. Instantly.

              Just searching for a contact, an appointment or a local file? Doesn’t matter, it gets sent to Apple anyways.

              You probably want to turn this off!
              Go to Settings -> Search and disable „show related content“.
              This disables web search in the launcher, but what do we have browsers for?

              mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
              mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
              mast0d0nphan@beige.party
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              #32

              @NikTheDusky Does it doe this for other keyboards that can be installed?

              Can the Network permissions be disabled for the Home app or the keyboard?

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              • carquint@wien.rocksC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #33

                @Quasit @NikTheDusky - you mean something like Linux?

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                • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                  @NikTheDusky Apple is like: we care about your user experience, so we installed a keylogger on your device

                  jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.clubJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #34
                  @schratze @NikTheDusky
                  This is the "tap disable giant snake" comic / meme irl
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                  • jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.clubJ jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.club
                    @schratze @NikTheDusky
                    This is the "tap disable giant snake" comic / meme irl
                    cyon@ennexis.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jonossaseuraava @NikTheDusky @schratze
                    So its microsofts "Swiftkey" on android that some Android roms from vendors use...
                    and the Google Keyboard has an "incognito" mode when entering passwords?

                    glad i use old refurbished phones with LinageOS :3
                    they are less then 120€ too

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                    • cyon@ennexis.deC cyon@ennexis.de

                      @jonossaseuraava @NikTheDusky @schratze
                      So its microsofts "Swiftkey" on android that some Android roms from vendors use...
                      and the Google Keyboard has an "incognito" mode when entering passwords?

                      glad i use old refurbished phones with LinageOS :3
                      they are less then 120€ too

                      jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.clubJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #36
                      @cyon @NikTheDusky @schratze
                      Heliboard FTW
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                      • jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.clubJ jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.club
                        @cyon @NikTheDusky @schratze
                        Heliboard FTW
                        cyon@ennexis.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        cyon@ennexis.de
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                        #37

                        @jonossaseuraava @NikTheDusky @schratze
                        true ❤

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                        • mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM mast0d0nphan@beige.party

                          @NikTheDusky Does it doe this for other keyboards that can be installed?

                          Can the Network permissions be disabled for the Home app or the keyboard?

                          nikthedusky@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                          nikthedusky@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                          nikthedusky@chaos.social
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                          #38

                          @mast0d0nphan the keyboard doesn't matter because the requests that are sent are part of the search feature in the search bar on the home screen. you can either turn of location access for this specific feature to prevent it from including your geolocation, or disable the web search suggestions feature altogether. This happens in your browser as well, if you have suggestions turned on there. You need to disable these as well, if you don't want that.

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                          • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

                            I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

                            Every. Single. Keystroke. Instantly.

                            Just searching for a contact, an appointment or a local file? Doesn’t matter, it gets sent to Apple anyways.

                            You probably want to turn this off!
                            Go to Settings -> Search and disable „show related content“.
                            This disables web search in the launcher, but what do we have browsers for?

                            goes2hard@labyrinth.zoneG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            goes2hard@labyrinth.zone
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                            #39
                            @NikTheDusky nooooooo my keylogger :(((
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                            • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

                              I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

                              Every. Single. Keystroke. Instantly.

                              Just searching for a contact, an appointment or a local file? Doesn’t matter, it gets sent to Apple anyways.

                              You probably want to turn this off!
                              Go to Settings -> Search and disable „show related content“.
                              This disables web search in the launcher, but what do we have browsers for?

                              seebeutel@rheinneckar.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                              seebeutel@rheinneckar.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                              seebeutel@rheinneckar.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #40

                              @NikTheDusky
                              In German it is called:
                              In den deutsche Einstellungen-> Suchen-> „zugehörigen Inhalt anzeigen“
                              #iphone #DataSovereignty

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                              • nikthedusky@chaos.socialN nikthedusky@chaos.social

                                I recently looked at my iPhone‘s traffic and was painfully reminded at how it sends every keystroke you type into the home screen search to Apples servers by default.

                                Every. Single. Keystroke. Instantly.

                                Just searching for a contact, an appointment or a local file? Doesn’t matter, it gets sent to Apple anyways.

                                You probably want to turn this off!
                                Go to Settings -> Search and disable „show related content“.
                                This disables web search in the launcher, but what do we have browsers for?

                                dzedus@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dzedus@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dzedus@mas.to
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                                #41

                                @NikTheDusky @xjki …and after the next software update it’s probably back again 🫠 How does one stay on top of all these settings? 🫩

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