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  • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

    Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

    itnomad@ruhr.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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    @theodric I'm too sober for this shit

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    • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

      Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

      teflontrout@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @theodric

      That is not very correct horse battery staple of them at all

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      • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

        Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

        heals@indiepocalypse.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @theodric it’s only Azure Blob storage! No one would store sensitive data in the cloud! Right!… Right?! /s

        /cc @aeva

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        • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

          Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

          kc@social.coopK This user is from outside of this forum
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          « Additionally, Microsoft has methods for scanning the contents of password-protected zip files, such as extracting possible passwords from the bodies of an email or the name of the file itself »

          Isn’t that technically a cybercrime in most countries 🤔

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          • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

            Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

            weirdmustard@flipping.rocksW This user is from outside of this forum
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            @theodric So "1234" and "Password1!" it is.

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            • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

              Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

              zkat@fedi.zkat.techZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @theodric this reads like an LLM response, so is probably just that

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              • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

                lucky@mastodon.nzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @theodric holy fuck?

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                • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                  Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

                  leorjorge@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @theodric This has to be an LLM response... even leaving alone this horrible security advice, the whole response is trying to do the exact opposite of what the OP asked!

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                  • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                    Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

                    bluetea@ioc.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @theodric omfg. seriously.

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                    • kc@social.coopK kc@social.coop

                      « Additionally, Microsoft has methods for scanning the contents of password-protected zip files, such as extracting possible passwords from the bodies of an email or the name of the file itself »

                      Isn’t that technically a cybercrime in most countries 🤔

                      6@possum.city6 This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @kc@social.coop the fines are just the price of doing business 😜

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                      • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                        Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                        @theodric p4ssw0rd1

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                        • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                          Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                          @theodric “Microsoft has methods for scanning the contents of password-protected zip files, such as extracting possible passwords from the bodies of an email or the name of the file itself[.]” Cool and normal stuff, your storage provider telling you that they are essentially cracking your data.

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                          • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                            Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                            @theodric
                            Does it suggest "password" or "ABC123"?

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                            • leorjorge@mastodon.socialL leorjorge@mastodon.social

                              @theodric This has to be an LLM response... even leaving alone this horrible security advice, the whole response is trying to do the exact opposite of what the OP asked!

                              evehaswords@toot.catE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @LeoRJorge @theodric Offering irrelevant / off topic advice is pretty normal for humans where complicated or obscure questions are in play (source: reading lots of StackOverflow and forum responses written before the advent of stochastic parrots). That said, I do agree this is likely slop since the point about the passwords would have to be hallucinated.

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                              • kr3st3n@infosec.exchangeK kr3st3n@infosec.exchange

                                @theodric @phloggen Fantastic advice. I also noted that files larger than 2GB are exempt from scanning?!?

                                Thanks. I’ll just add 2GB of randomness before my payload, then…

                                Checkmark security (or compliance for some) at its best. 👍

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                                @kr3st3n @theodric @phloggen yeah but it also says “Ensure that the size of the password-protected zip files does not exceed the 2 GB limit to avoid unnecessary consumption of the scanning quota.”??

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                                • evehaswords@toot.catE evehaswords@toot.cat

                                  @LeoRJorge @theodric Offering irrelevant / off topic advice is pretty normal for humans where complicated or obscure questions are in play (source: reading lots of StackOverflow and forum responses written before the advent of stochastic parrots). That said, I do agree this is likely slop since the point about the passwords would have to be hallucinated.

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                                  @EveHasWords @theodric Yeah, maybe I was giving too much merit to the Microsoft employee who posted the reply...

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                                  • kr3st3n@infosec.exchangeK kr3st3n@infosec.exchange

                                    @theodric @phloggen Fantastic advice. I also noted that files larger than 2GB are exempt from scanning?!?

                                    Thanks. I’ll just add 2GB of randomness before my payload, then…

                                    Checkmark security (or compliance for some) at its best. 👍

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                                    @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social this is an actual technique that works against many commercial AV and EDR solutions

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                                      @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social this is an actual technique that works against many commercial AV and EDR solutions

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                                      @kr3st3n@infosec.exchange @theodric@social.linux.pizza @phloggen@expressional.social a related one is to generate a bunch of very large benign archives to flood the scan queue before it picks up your payload, giving it time to execute before the system flags it.

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                                      • theodric@social.linux.pizzaT theodric@social.linux.pizza

                                        Look at this fantastic piece of advice from Microsoft! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-au/answers/questions/2007466/are-costs-incurred-when-attempting-to-scan-passwor

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                                        @theodric

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                                        • hugh@mastodon.nzH hugh@mastodon.nz

                                          @theodric
                                          Does it suggest "password" or "ABC123"?

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                                          @hugh @theodric It's worse, if you were to follow the advice above it in the article, you would either include the password in the text of the email or use the filename as the password

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