Matrix ain't it chief

[mook@possum.city]

@cadey@pony.social Jabber?
gets pelted with tomatoes

[kehvarl@furry.engineer]

@mook @cadey

You think you're joking, but 2 separate online groups I'm in are spinning up prosody xmpp servers to use instead of discord

[mook@possum.city]

@Kehvarl@furry.engineer @cadey@pony.social

xmpp sucks, just like activitypub sucks, linux sucks etc. but we're poor and it's what we got, so better cook it right at least

[kehvarl@furry.engineer]

@mook @cadey

All our options are the very worst options aside from the alternatives.

Just think, we could all be on plan 9 instead

[jackie@social.linux.pizza]

@cadey I don't use matrix I use catgirl.cloud, which just so happens to use the matrix protocol but-

[cadey@pony.social]

@jackie It's matrix enough

[jackie@social.linux.pizza]

@cadey I'm quitting email because gmail is bad smh

[tookmund@hachyderm.io]

@cadey I’m getting a 502 trying to access this (or any other page on your site actually).

[synthfi@hachyderm.io]

@cadey imo there just isn't enough dev time on the matrix protocol and clients. I really don't want to go through the trolling period that happened last year again

I'll stay on it for FOSS stuff, but outside of it it's too janky

[cadey@pony.social]

Element (@element@mastodon.matrix.org)

@amatecha@merveilles.town @matrix @liaizon@wake.st https://element.io/blog/the-online-safety-bill-an-attack-on-encryption gives an idea of our position. And no, there are no backdoors. Yes, we fund Matrix dev by selling encrypted messaging services to governments, which includes police: if you don’t like that then please feel free to use a different app.

Matrix.org's Mastodon (mastodon.matrix.org)

They work with cops in case that's a factor.

[srestegosaurio@mstdn.social]

@cadey Element is constantly talking about how many armies use them.

Do boots taste that good? Am I missing something?

[srestegosaurio@mstdn.social]

@cadey And neither are IRC or XMPP…

And that's just considering chats, wait until people start asking where are the VCs in Matrix.

[justjanne@mastodon.decentralised.chat]

@SrEstegosaurio @cadey The simple answer is: no one wants to fund open source chat software. The only ones who are willing to pay for it are either militaries, or the germans.