Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs
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I wouldn't call them super cheap though they depreciate a lot from the new prices. Lots of quality ICE cars of similar age at lower prices, i.e. they are still expensive cars.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers. The company is bankrupt but there's a lively community of owners and getting stuff like repair parts isn't hard. I'm slightly tempted but only slightly. What I really want is an EV conversion for an old cargo van, so it would have very few computers inside.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers.
you are a endless pool of bad advice.
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What about the idea of the battery degrading or getting worn out or whatever? I've never owned one and I have sort of zero concept of that. I think they're warranty covers through 150k or something like that?
Battery is not the problem, it's the flimsy gadgetry in the rest of the car, and the motors.
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I own a Honda Fit. It's small, is reasonably petrol efficient, has actual dials and physical knobs for an interface, and needs just basic maintenance to run reliably.
Of course they've been discontinued in Canada.
Blame idiot Canadians who buy pickups instead, not Honda.
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My last car was a Camry, and it was huge compared to what I remember them as (my mom has an 80s one when I was a kid). I've downsized to a Corolla (after I destroyed the Camry whoopsie) now tho.
And I have no idea what those alphabet/number soup cars even are. If they can't get a real name thae they can go extinct. I'm not learning what an e45 is, or a ZQ73 is.
But yeah they have gotten more unwieldy, and that shit needs to stop.
But what I meant to say got lost in my other point, which was my opinion that even given the most safe shape and sizes possible, I think everything but sedans are ugly, just aesthetically speaking. I understand the practical reasons, but they're all ugly.
SUVs are not practical. Hatchbacks or wagon sedans are practical.
SUVs are just big to give the impression of value and to sell to an increasingly obese demographic.
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Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It's insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
They significantly dropped the prices at the dealerships. A model 3 is now like 36k compared to 50+ last year., but I'd rather walk on glass. We bought a Ford Maverick instead.
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I will drive a free tesla
I wouldn't even get in that unopenable-emergency-doors death trap.
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Blame idiot Canadians who buy pickups instead, not Honda.
Sure wish we were a province of the United States. Then nobody would be buying pickup trucks as passenger vehicles! I mean, who in America has a pickup truck in their driveway?
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Musk is much more of an Edison than a Tesla. If he'd been honest he would have named his cars Edison. Then, the cool rebadge could have been Tesla. But, even he was smart enough to realize what an asshole Edison was, even if he didn't recognize the Edison in himself.
Musk didn't name Tesla, did he? I'm pretty sure he bought it, like he buys every company. He's not a good idea guy.
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Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made
- extremely safe and powerful with great handling.
The reality is they can last upwards of 500k miles with minimal maintenance, have excellent power and handling, and are extremely safe in accidents regardless of how many idiot Tesla drivers are crashing their Tesla
There are many high-mileage examples, and Tesla’s battery/drive-unit warranty is long for the segment
2025 Tesla Model 3 4-door sedan
IIHS ratings for the 2025 Tesla Model 3 4-door sedan - midsize luxury car
IIHS-HLDI crash testing and highway safety (www.iihs.org)
IIHS-HLDI: Crash Testing & Highway Safety
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) is an independent, nonprofit scientific and educational organization dedicated to reducing deaths, injuries and property damage from motor vehicle crashes through research and evaluation and through education of consumers, policymakers and safety professionals.
IIHS-HLDI crash testing and highway safety (www.iihs.org)
Fuel Economy
Fuel economy of the . 1984 to present Buyer's Guide to Fuel Efficient Cars and Trucks. Estimates of gas mileage, greenhouse gas emissions, safety ratings, and air pollution ratings for new and used cars and trucks.
(fueleconomy.gov)
2026 Tesla Model 3 Review, Pricing, and Specs
Read our 2026 Tesla Model 3 review for information on ratings, pricing, specs, and features, and see how this sedan performed in our testing.
Car and Driver (www.caranddriver.com)
2024 Tesla Model 3 First Drive: Making Real Improvements
The Model 3 Highland fixes much of what we hated about the old car and demonstrates how Tesla has listened to its customers—but it’s still not perfect.
MotorTrend (www.motortrend.com)
2024 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range First Test: The Cheapest Tesla Punches Above Its Price Point
Is the cheapest Tesla good? The revised entry-level rear-drive 2024 Model 3 Highland addresses complaints and signals what's to come from Tesla.
MotorTrend (www.motortrend.com)
Model 3s are among the safer cars in their class, with strong IIHS results and Tesla's low-center-of-gravity EV platform design.
They are objectively quick, with official 0-60 times ranging from 5.8s down to 2.9s depending on trim.
Routine maintenance is relatively light, and EPA data shows very low annual energy cost compared with many gas cars.
Buying used can be reasonable, especially when battery/warranty status is verified, and Tesla's own pre-owned vehicles are inspected and sold with warranty coverage.
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Model 3s are some of the best vehicles ever made
- extremely safe and powerful with great handling.
There are a lot of really shitty people who have done very good things for science, technology, and humanity throughout history. Elon Musk is inarguably a really shitty person, but he has also been at the center of multiple efforts that materially accelerated technology and improved human capability.
Tesla was one of the biggest forces in dragging EVs out of the fringe and into the mainstream. The IEA projected around 17 million EV sales in 2024, more than one-fifth of all new cars sold worldwide, and the EPA notes that EVs typically have a smaller carbon footprint than gasoline cars even after accounting for battery manufacturing and charging electricity. (IEA)
Battery technology and grid-level storage matter far beyond cars. The IEA notes that grid-scale battery storage has scaled rapidly in recent years and is expected to account for most storage growth worldwide, which is a major part of making grids more stable and better able to absorb renewable power. (IEA)
On self-driving, the honest version is not "he solved autonomy," because fully self-driving consumer cars are still not here. IIHS says Level 4 and 5 vehicles are not available to consumers for purchase, but Tesla has absolutely helped force driver-assistance and autonomy into the center of the industry and push deployment at huge real-world scale; Tesla says its supervised FSD system is trained on data from a fleet of over six million vehicles. (IIHS)
Then there is space. SpaceX made rocket reusability real at operational scale, and NASA has explicitly described reusability as a path to driving launch costs down. Lower launch costs and higher launch cadence directly expand access to space for communications, Earth observation, scientific missions, and the long-term path toward becoming a genuinely spacefaring civilization. (NASA Technical Reports Server)
Starlink also matters. The FCC authorized SpaceX's broadband satellite system to provide broadband service, and that kind of global satellite internet has obvious real-world value for remote and underserved areas and for resilience when terrestrial infrastructure is unavailable. (Federal Communications Commission)
So no, being a shitty person does not erase the fact that the companies he drove helped accelerate EV adoption, battery storage, launch reusability, satellite internet, and the broader push toward a more electrified, connected, and space-capable civilization. You can hate the man and still admit the net technological impact is very large.
Sources:
Advanced driver assistance
Information from IIHS-HLDI on advanced driver assistance systems, including crash avoidance technologies and automation
IIHS-HLDI crash testing and highway safety (www.iihs.org)
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20160013370/downloads/20160013370.pdf
Reusable Launch Vehicles Are Lowering Space Costs
As we advance technology in space exploration, the main challenge we’re facing is lowering the cost of space travel.
NSTXL (nstxl.org)
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-authorizes-spacex-provide-broadband-satellite-services
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-approves-next-gen-satellite-constellation
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Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
AWD is only a thing in stupid vehicle designs where they put all the weight up front, and the drive wheels at the back.
An EV truck has proper weight distribution, AWD would offer no advantage, just add weight and cost more.
Awd/4x4 is an integral option for those of us who need it. Its not a gimmick, its not a nice to have. Its an it better have one or the other, or its not an option
It's the difference between getting up your drive in bad weather and parking at the end of a 3 mile long dirt road drive and walking home from there, in the dark at the end of a long day, through woodlands in which wild animals are not infrequent visitors, and presumably on top of all of that in markedly bad weather events
A truck, and especially an EV that must be plugged in to charge so you can drive the +70 miles to the nearest town if needed after driving that far to get home doesn't live up to its name or need if it doesn't get you to home or from 999/1,000 times you needed it to
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SUVs are not practical. Hatchbacks or wagon sedans are practical.
SUVs are just big to give the impression of value and to sell to an increasingly obese demographic.
The hatchback is for sure. If I could have the hatchback that just visually appears to be a sedan, that'd be peak. It's more practical than a sedan really, but still loses in the looks department.
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The reason the trucks keep getting bigger is to meet emissions regulations. Sounds nuts, right? But instead of making them more efficient, they could use a loophole of making them bigger instead, because the law applies in a size vs efficiency ratio, not efficiency by itself.
Damn, fuck that.
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Damn, fuck that.
https://youtu.be/I-HqgdJAcLs
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https://youtu.be/I-HqgdJAcLs
at 7 minutes in they talk about the efficiency loophole issue.It is insane how "make everything worse" makes them clear the emissions bar.
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