god sake, the BBC News election livestreams live chat is a fucking cesspit of hate, right wing bullshit, anti-queer stuff, pro-Reform propaganda, but there are Greens in there pushing back
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@mrmasterkeyboard yeah I’m… gonna discuss emigration with my partner I think. There’s no hope left for this shithole.
@ret honestly, good luck. I can't exactly leave right now. at least I voted for Green regional and Labour constituency over in Scotland.
It seems like Green targeted councils in England are only just counting now, Reform only won one council so far it looks like. Others are NOC or either Lib Dem or Labour so far.
I pray shit doesn't get worse.
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god sake, the BBC News election livestreams live chat is a fucking cesspit of hate, right wing bullshit, anti-queer stuff, pro-Reform propaganda, but there are Greens in there pushing back
still, fuck every right winger in that chat. if you voted for Reform then fuck you because you've voted for racists who thought immigrants are a problem.
(heads up, billionaires are the problem. not immigrants.)
now a Reform MP is now talking about making a cryptocurrency hub in the UK, fucking hell...
@mrmasterkeyboard I do have a genuine and naive question. How is Scotland impacted by global UK politics and decisions, and how independent can you be from them in the actual context? And how do you see it evolve in the coming years?
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@mrmasterkeyboard I do have a genuine and naive question. How is Scotland impacted by global UK politics and decisions, and how independent can you be from them in the actual context? And how do you see it evolve in the coming years?
@chickenkiller That's actually a really good question. I'll try to answer it the best I can though, I'm not great but here is how I'd see it.
Scotland is usually impacted by UK politics and decision. Mostly because of our devolution. If Westminster rules that a act has been passed into law (e.g. Online Safety Act) we'd have to follow that because it's a UK wide thing. There's no part in most cases to say Scotland or Wales can not follow it if they want to.
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@chickenkiller That's actually a really good question. I'll try to answer it the best I can though, I'm not great but here is how I'd see it.
Scotland is usually impacted by UK politics and decision. Mostly because of our devolution. If Westminster rules that a act has been passed into law (e.g. Online Safety Act) we'd have to follow that because it's a UK wide thing. There's no part in most cases to say Scotland or Wales can not follow it if they want to.
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@chickenkiller Another example of how we were impacted by UK politics would have been Brexit. A majority of us and IIRC Northern Ireland too voted to not leave the European Union but Wales and England gained the majority vote and we ended up leaving. Prior to this, we had our Independence Referendum which failed as well.
Since then, most of us consider that the conditions changed for that referendum because of Brexit but Westminster have denied us a referendum for years.
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@chickenkiller Another example of how we were impacted by UK politics would have been Brexit. A majority of us and IIRC Northern Ireland too voted to not leave the European Union but Wales and England gained the majority vote and we ended up leaving. Prior to this, we had our Independence Referendum which failed as well.
Since then, most of us consider that the conditions changed for that referendum because of Brexit but Westminster have denied us a referendum for years.
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@chickenkiller To also mention another, our Gender Reform Bill that we tried to pass which got approval in Scottish Government. (Now, I might be wrong here so feel free to correct me.) Westminster had controversially deployed an article or section for the first time to actually block this outright. Our government didn't really attempt to do it again, mainly to avoid using taxpayer money.
If it were up to me, I would've submitted that bill relentlessly until acceptance. Trans rights!
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@chickenkiller To also mention another, our Gender Reform Bill that we tried to pass which got approval in Scottish Government. (Now, I might be wrong here so feel free to correct me.) Westminster had controversially deployed an article or section for the first time to actually block this outright. Our government didn't really attempt to do it again, mainly to avoid using taxpayer money.
If it were up to me, I would've submitted that bill relentlessly until acceptance. Trans rights!
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@chickenkiller Onto independence. There's 2 ways about how independent from the rest of the UK we can be.
For one, there's independence. Everyone knows about this one. We hold a referendum, votes pass, we leave the UK entirely and get all laws and controls back. Problem is, borders wouldn't be open, it takes a long time to come back to the EU, our defence would be non-existent, we wouldn't really have a say in the pound either because AFAIK that's England's job, same with funding.
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@chickenkiller Onto independence. There's 2 ways about how independent from the rest of the UK we can be.
For one, there's independence. Everyone knows about this one. We hold a referendum, votes pass, we leave the UK entirely and get all laws and controls back. Problem is, borders wouldn't be open, it takes a long time to come back to the EU, our defence would be non-existent, we wouldn't really have a say in the pound either because AFAIK that's England's job, same with funding.
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@chickenkiller Another way, which I don't see talked about much, is devo-max, AKA full fiscal autonomy or devolution max.
This would allow us to regain all reserved powers England held over us while still being a part of the UK. We have all benefits of being in the UK without really feeling like we're still in it because we'd have all control over what we do without having to check with or be under control of Westminster.
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@chickenkiller Another way, which I don't see talked about much, is devo-max, AKA full fiscal autonomy or devolution max.
This would allow us to regain all reserved powers England held over us while still being a part of the UK. We have all benefits of being in the UK without really feeling like we're still in it because we'd have all control over what we do without having to check with or be under control of Westminster.
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@chickenkiller The most interesting part is how I'd see it evolve in the coming years.
If you had asked me this exact question 2 or 3 years ago, I would have said that I'd see independence happening and I'd be all for it.
Nowadays, I'd actually say that devo-max would be the best way forward for both Scotland and the UK. I could see it ahead this way, and I'd support it over independence.
I think devo-max needs party attention, not independence because that would make us vulnerable.
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@chickenkiller The most interesting part is how I'd see it evolve in the coming years.
If you had asked me this exact question 2 or 3 years ago, I would have said that I'd see independence happening and I'd be all for it.
Nowadays, I'd actually say that devo-max would be the best way forward for both Scotland and the UK. I could see it ahead this way, and I'd support it over independence.
I think devo-max needs party attention, not independence because that would make us vulnerable.
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@chickenkiller I hope that answers your questions!
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@chickenkiller I hope that answers your questions!
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@mrmasterkeyboard Wow. Thank you so much for the detailed and understandable answer. From France I always felt like uk citizens probably had to deal with neverending discussions about brexit, and with contradictory points of view from Wales, Scotland etc. about their status, independence... I loved visiting Scotland last year, but could not get the grasp about how citizens live with all that, and how motivated they are to stay involved in politics. Your answer is yours, but is exactly the level I needed to have to get a better understanding. Thank you.
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@mrmasterkeyboard Wow. Thank you so much for the detailed and understandable answer. From France I always felt like uk citizens probably had to deal with neverending discussions about brexit, and with contradictory points of view from Wales, Scotland etc. about their status, independence... I loved visiting Scotland last year, but could not get the grasp about how citizens live with all that, and how motivated they are to stay involved in politics. Your answer is yours, but is exactly the level I needed to have to get a better understanding. Thank you.
@chickenkiller no problem! politics have always been my things for quite a bit, and I'm happy that I was able to inform you (to the best of my abilities) about some of our political stuff!
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@chickenkiller no problem! politics have always been my things for quite a bit, and I'm happy that I was able to inform you (to the best of my abilities) about some of our political stuff!
@mrmasterkeyboard Thanks for EVI by the way! FOSS is all about politics too.
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@mrmasterkeyboard Thanks for EVI by the way! FOSS is all about politics too.
@chickenkiller No problem! I'm happy that people online actually recognise me for that too, but as always, without the other maintainers on the team and contributors, EVi wouldn't have gotten as far as it has!
