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OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

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  • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

    OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

    Usborne 1980s Computer Books

    nuclearoatmeal@beige.partyN This user is from outside of this forum
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    nuclearoatmeal@beige.party
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    @paco

    That and some of the other books on that site were nostalgic. Never read then specifically, but yeah, definitely the right time for the time.

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    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

      OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

      Usborne 1980s Computer Books

      overeducatedredneck@bitbang.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @paco possibly not as charmingly illustrated, but the modern equivalent is the RISC-V ISA Manual: https://docs.riscv.org/reference/isa/_attachments/riscv-unprivileged.pdf

      RISC-V was developed as a teaching tool initially, and that's still a part of its purpose and it's reflected in the documentation. It's very approachable.

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      • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

        OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

        Usborne 1980s Computer Books

        dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @paco Imagine how many libraries you'd need to pull from npm to get your dev environment set up for this!

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        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

          OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

          Usborne 1980s Computer Books

          boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @paco Those robots "taught" me how to write games for the Apple ][c

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          • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

            OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

            Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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            @paco have you seen the for babies series by Chris Ferrie? Saw him give a talk at the #Toronto science center on #quantum physics and he'd just also written these quantum physics for babies board books as well.
            We've been giving them to friends who have babies ever since.
            See: https://a.co/d/02pxpg9V

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            • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

              @paco I had several of this series they are EXCELLENT every kid should learn how to assemble their code to hex it builds CHARACTER

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              @msh @paco

              Hand typing a code listing from a magazine develops useful working memory!

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              • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                @paco Most "coders" these days are even overwhelmed by the "complexity" of low-level programming languages ... and for whom even high level languages are too complex: HELLO VIBE CODING.

                Guess which programming languages rank among the top 10 of the most popular languages to "vibe code" in ... Python, JavaScript, and Java ...

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                • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                  OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                  Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                  @paco Could you believe we had no problems expecting humans could write machine code, just for fun? 🤔

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                  • M muddle@infosec.exchange

                    @paco "for the z80 and 6502" ... so why isn't the 6502 featured in the code?
                    (I've said too much)

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                    @muddle @paco Sure the illustration only has Z80 instructions, but I will instead ask why not also the poor Motorola 6809? The Dragon series of home computers did after all sell a decent number though not close to the other brands that used the other two CPUs.

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                    • shanecelis@mastodon.gamedev.placeS shanecelis@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @paco Wow, the PDF is available! For that and many other books in a similar vein. Browsing through I’m struck by how colorful and inviting it is. Some real care went into this.

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                      #18

                      @shanecelis @paco The early 80s was truly a golden age for seriously engaging educational books.

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                      • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                        OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                        Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                        @paco I had a similar book for the zx81 in the early 1980s!

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                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                          OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                          Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                          @paco Kudos to Usborne for making them available, we might run faster computers, but the fundamentals of electronics and making stuff haven't changed AT ALL. You can still buy a 555 timer chip, discrete components, everything. Even a Z80 micro although the original Z80 chips are no longer made.

                          How to Make Computer Model Controllers is just as relevant today owing to Raspberry Pi's making control computing affordable.

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                          • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                            OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                            Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                            @paco do you remember the last time "beginners" ment actual "peoples beginning their journey in being educated into something"?

                            todays "beginner" means vibe coding for as little money as possible.

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                            • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                              OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                              Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                              @paco

                              Spent half my life on a 6502c but nobody wants to hear...

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                              • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                @paco
                                Just skimmed through it.

                                I would have loved a book like that growing up. As it is, some of the stuff covered in it I only learned about when going to college, years later.

                                I would have been of the right age to get this book! Alas, it doesn't seem to be available in Dutch though. Plus, I only got my first computer (a C-128 hand me down) in the mid 90s... 🤷
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                                • eestileib@tech.lgbtE eestileib@tech.lgbt

                                  @msh @paco

                                  Hand typing a code listing from a magazine develops useful working memory!

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                                  @eestileib ...and helps learning and practicing debugging a lot!

                                  In my youth I made the experience that almost every code in a magazine had errors. 🤬

                                  @msh @paco

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                                  • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                    OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                    Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                    @paco oh this cover design 😍

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                                    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                      OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                      Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                      @paco I learnt Z80 assembly code first from instructions seen in listings, and then in Rodnay Zaks "Programming the Z80" book.
                                      By that time we were learning more about thelow level basics, developing was more complex sometimes.
                                      The level of abstraction of today gives a lot of flexibility, but at the same time astrays from the waste of resources: memory space, computing power, energy waste, even for terribly simple applications.

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                                      • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

                                        @paco I had several of this series they are EXCELLENT every kid should learn how to assemble their code to hex it builds CHARACTER

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                                        @msh @paco "every kid" is a bit exaggerated, isn't it? But I agree to your point.

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                                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                          OMG. Can you imagine publishing Machine Code for Beginners today??

                                          Usborne 1980s Computer Books

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                                          @paco
                                          Nice. The closest to the machine programming I ever did was in assembler. Only a very little bit. Around 1987

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