This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress.
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
@mcnado ill never say the former when the latter has been going on for HALF A CENTURY OR MORE, all around the zone, over and over, with human rights shown to be about as important to the US as honesty is to donald trump.
And you want to talk about how there is a silver lining to this, latest fucking catastrophe, in a series of catastrophes, since long before any of us were born, because WHY, again? What is the fucking reasoning?
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@GreenSkyOverMe that's a pretty good reason
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@GreenSkyOverMe @bweller @mativity @mcnado And yet they keep assassinating leaders …
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
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who do you want to have conversations with -
@mcnado
who do you want to have conversations with@mcnado
also, it was an Israeli strike as per official stance -
This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
dear McNadoMD,
as the elected leader of the tankie alliance on the fediverse, it is my duty to inform you that we must kneejerk defend the govt of iran, despite the govt of iran being used toilet paper
your talk of nuance is horrifying
everything is black and white, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, you're either with us or against us, tribalism uber alles, blah blah blah
oppose the govt of iran *and* the govt of the usa... at the same time?! wtf?
thank you for your time
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
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I'd rather say at least UNO, but any checks and balances would be nice at this time. -
This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
@mcnado "Authorization from Congress?" I hope this is some kind of clever sarcasm, or I have to conclude that Americans are so imperialism-pilled that they say shit like this seriously.
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
@mcnado Khamenei
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@InsurgoFormica @mcnado given the fact fact that they have/had Fatwa in Iran issued by now dead demagogue, I am ok that he is out. Trying to kill Hitler was also fairly legitimate. And killing wanna be human who pray for and declare annihilation of another nation/state is from my side morally ok. And given some videos I have seem now from Iran, it doesn’t look like Iranians are crying for his loss. I think it should be them who should judge this act in first place.
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
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@InsurgoFormica @mcnado if my leader is killing my friends, family and oppressing my nation, that it is from my side OK-ish. The same way, Brits killed Heidrich (who was defacto nation leader that time) during German Nazi occupation in Prague during WW2.
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This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
@mcnado We can have complex discussions, but it's hard to do when the politicians who make the decisions act like utter imbeciles.
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@InsurgoFormica @mcnado Americans in the Fediverse «yes please»
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@mcnado @pojntfx Well. From Iranian perspective I think it feels a bit different. Previously only people were getting hurt by “diplomatic measures” like sanctions while the regime was becoming more and more emboldened. So yes. Assassination. But also putting innocent civilians that never had a choice in any of this into poverty and exclusion and claiming that it is for them, is also an action. (1/2)
For me it is worrying where the help came from but it is also very clear that this was one of the best helps we ever got from other countries. (2/2)
P.S. of course I acknowledge that this was a clear failure of checks for American people and probably a distraction from what is going on with US and Epstein at the moment. -
This may shock some folks, but it is OK to simultaneously say that Khomeini had it coming and is a piece of shit who deserved what he got, and to say that a US president shouldn’t be assassinating foreign leaders without authorization from Congress. We can do that. We can have complex discussions. It is possible.
@mcnado @pojntfx Well. From Iranian perspective I think it feels a bit different. Previously only people were getting hurt by “diplomatic measures” like sanctions while the regime was becoming more and more emboldened. So yes. Assassination. But also putting innocent civilians that never had a choice in any of this into poverty and exclusion and claiming that it is for them, is also an action. (1/2)
