Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek factorio UPS optimizer will be a respectable trade
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek get ready for chinese GPUs because AMD and Ngreedia said goodbye to PC gaming
https://uk.pcmag.com/graphics-cards/165114/china-just-made-a-gpu-thats-powerful-enough-for-gaming-but-theres-a-catch -
Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek Maybe the time has come where developers start to write optimized code again as it was with hardware limitations back in the 90s. Lot's of them got lazy with every new drop of RAM and CPU prizes in the last years. They had power and memory without limits and it was cheap. This could be the end of overpowered engines like Unreal Engine and Unity and the revival of custom made engines specialized and optimized for specific tasks.
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@masek
I hope the AI bubble will burst sooner than later.@grutzifix It does not matter anymore. If it were to burst this afternoon, the damage is already done.
It's like the crash you're helplessly forced to watch happen.
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@masek Maybe the time has come where developers start to write optimized code again as it was with hardware limitations back in the 90s. Lot's of them got lazy with every new drop of RAM and CPU prizes in the last years. They had power and memory without limits and it was cheap. This could be the end of overpowered engines like Unreal Engine and Unity and the revival of custom made engines specialized and optimized for specific tasks.
@ravetracer_22 I think that will become an important discipline again. At least for those software devs who will survive.
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@masek get ready for chinese GPUs because AMD and Ngreedia said goodbye to PC gaming
https://uk.pcmag.com/graphics-cards/165114/china-just-made-a-gpu-thats-powerful-enough-for-gaming-but-theres-a-catch@Robbes0211 As I said "silver platter"
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@ravetracer_22 I think that will become an important discipline again. At least for those software devs who will survive.
@masek If only GameDevs would code like the guys from "Farbrausch"
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@masek If only GameDevs would code like the guys from "Farbrausch"
@masek For example: I'm playing "Enshrouded" since some weeks now and learned, that the developers wrote their own engine for the game which does the tasks especially for the game instead of using a full fledged available engine with features they might not need. The entry hardware requirements for big available engines are already very high.
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@masek For example: I'm playing "Enshrouded" since some weeks now and learned, that the developers wrote their own engine for the game which does the tasks especially for the game instead of using a full fledged available engine with features they might not need. The entry hardware requirements for big available engines are already very high.
@ravetracer_22 This will be sequence:
- Component crisis: supply chains for some components fail (we're right here)
- Hardware crisis: all supply chains crash
- Accessory crisis: the followup-business will fail and crash
- Software crisis: the software released does not match the available hardware
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek all that can be done now is support indies, pirate Amazon and Microsoft and avoid Nvidia.
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek I disagree strongly with the "gaming is dead" part.
Indy games that run on shitty hardware will persist, simply because they also can't afford better hardware to develop on.
AAA gaming is dead. Or will force you to use streaming services.
For me personally most AAA developers / publishers are already on a "no buy" list, so it's not really a change. -
Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek I found a Wii with a stack of games on the curb a few weeks ago. Gaming has never been so alive
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@masek I disagree strongly with the "gaming is dead" part.
Indy games that run on shitty hardware will persist, simply because they also can't afford better hardware to develop on.
AAA gaming is dead. Or will force you to use streaming services.
For me personally most AAA developers / publishers are already on a "no buy" list, so it's not really a change.@leberschnitzel I didn't say that.
I said "gaming as we knew it" is dead. Gaming as a whole will always exist.
But the cycle of permanent renewed, always more powerful hardware is broken and will (by my estimate) not come back.
This will drastically change things. Gaming will still exist, but for most players it will look different.
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
Yep, as the situation is worsening and prices will remain high at least for a couple of years , if not for the next decade (depends on the future of AI industry ), developers should think to create games (and software) that can run fine even on older hw.
I don't think the vast majority of people can justify spending large amounts of money for gaming....or in order to run local AI etc.
And Windslop (Nadella) plan to gradually make Windows12 a thin client platform, just to subscribe to their Office and AI / Cloud services....
Thanks Lord I use Linux.... -
@masek
I hope the AI bubble will burst sooner than later.@grutzifix @masek go watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQwAhppWj8 (or at least the first half hour or so)
The industry is dying. There will be nothing left at the end.
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Yep, as the situation is worsening and prices will remain high at least for a couple of years , if not for the next decade (depends on the future of AI industry ), developers should think to create games (and software) that can run fine even on older hw.
I don't think the vast majority of people can justify spending large amounts of money for gaming....or in order to run local AI etc.
And Windslop (Nadella) plan to gradually make Windows12 a thin client platform, just to subscribe to their Office and AI / Cloud services....
Thanks Lord I use Linux....@andre123 There will be no more market for Gaming PCs at home. The manufacturers will die or pivot to other markets. Software Devs will write for Cloud and Service platforms. What remains of the market will be very small...
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@andre123 There will be no more market for Gaming PCs at home. The manufacturers will die or pivot to other markets. Software Devs will write for Cloud and Service platforms. What remains of the market will be very small...
It may be, indeed !
I didn't think about this outcome, and I really don't like the idea of all computing , including gaming, in the cloud
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Valve massively raised the prices for the Steam Deck:
- 1TB OLED $649 -> $949
- 512GB OLED $549 -> $789
The items are out of stock nonetheless.
Get used to the pattern: The unavailable hardware will become unaffordable
The supply chains will die, then the accessory industry will follow. Companies like FixIt may prosper as the PC has now to last a decade.
What remains of the industry will be handed over to China on a silver platter.
#gaming as we knew it is dead. Hope the software devs (or their AI agent) got the memo that their games have to run fine on older hardware.
@masek Honestly, I would be fine with a sequel to Super Mario 64.
