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Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

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  • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

    Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
    https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

    #Privacy #Surveillance

    alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
    alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
    alison@beige.party
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    #4

    @petersuber Very interesting! Great share.

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    • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

      Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
      https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

      #Privacy #Surveillance

      meznor@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      meznor@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      meznor@mstdn.social
      wrote last edited by
      #5

      @petersuber it got a bunch wrong about me

      Browser, OS, ISP, battery. All wrong.

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      • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

        Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
        https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

        #Privacy #Surveillance

        kranzkrone@quasselkopf.deK This user is from outside of this forum
        kranzkrone@quasselkopf.deK This user is from outside of this forum
        kranzkrone@quasselkopf.de
        wrote last edited by
        #6

        @petersuber
        Indeed scary shit, that shows the everyday surveillance of the modern smartphone society got used to accepting as given without questioning it.

        We're not on a way into a dystopia, already living it.

        Even when I tried this Website with Firefox and strongly restricted rules, there was some leakage of data.

        Vivaldi & Brave Browser wasn't much better.

        I wonder how a Browser on GrapheneOS would handle this website? 🤔😉

        #Privacy #Surveillance

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        • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

          Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
          https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

          #Privacy #Surveillance

          gwen@tech.lgbtG This user is from outside of this forum
          gwen@tech.lgbtG This user is from outside of this forum
          gwen@tech.lgbt
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          #7

          @petersuber the EFF already made this years ago, with more features and much more usable, and also not made by some weird LLM company: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

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          • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

            Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
            https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

            #Privacy #Surveillance

            B This user is from outside of this forum
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            blackoverflow@norden.social
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            #8

            @petersuber
            Well, got blocked by Vercel (Error 99)...

            If I can't reach the website, it won't get info from me.

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            • gwen@tech.lgbtG gwen@tech.lgbt

              @petersuber the EFF already made this years ago, with more features and much more usable, and also not made by some weird LLM company: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

              groxx@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @gwen @petersuber and without being dramatically ominous at every chance. I have no idea why so many people are sharing this.

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              • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                #Privacy #Surveillance

                ramsey@phpc.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                ramsey@phpc.social
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                #10

                @petersuber @blogdiva The @eff also has https://coveryourtracks.eff.org, which seems less fearmongering and more focused on how to resolve your gaps.

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                • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                  Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                  https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                  #Privacy #Surveillance

                  grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  grumpydad@infosec.exchange
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                  #11

                  @petersuber Is there any way to block or fudge that info?

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                  • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                    Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                    https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                    #Privacy #Surveillance

                    yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
                    yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
                    yacc143@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #12

                    @petersuber Hmm, “Your browser is Chrome.” Sorry, Chrome-based. Which is true for about 90+% of users not on Rotten Fruit™️ devices.
                    Interestingly, my box will be almost perfectly fingerprintable via the iGPU and 4K touchscreen, sigh, back to LibreWolf for my private surfing, I wonder. Sigh.

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                    • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                      Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                      https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                      #Privacy #Surveillance

                      haraldki@nrw.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      haraldki@nrw.social
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                      #13

                      @petersuber

                      See also

                      Link Preview Image
                      Cover Your Tracks

                      See how trackers view your browser

                      favicon

                      (coveryourtracks.eff.org)

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                      • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                        @petersuber Is there any way to block or fudge that info?

                        yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @grumpydad @petersuber Depending upon how brutal you want to be.

                        Basically it's called fingerprinting, and it comes with the joys of Javascript -> Javascript today is quite powerful -> but sadly that implies that it has access to quite a bit of your hardware -> and different hardware & software carry "information" in a statistical sense.

                        But yes, different browsers and extensions provide different levels of anti-fingerprinting support. Starting the extreme with LibreWolf.

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                        • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                          @grumpydad @petersuber Depending upon how brutal you want to be.

                          Basically it's called fingerprinting, and it comes with the joys of Javascript -> Javascript today is quite powerful -> but sadly that implies that it has access to quite a bit of your hardware -> and different hardware & software carry "information" in a statistical sense.

                          But yes, different browsers and extensions provide different levels of anti-fingerprinting support. Starting the extreme with LibreWolf.

                          yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          But LibreFold in it's default setting also means that it will start in certain default window sizes (so the window/screen size cannot be used for fingerprinting), by default the Canvas API is disabled that many websites use for Image manipulation or rendering complex stuff, ah, and it defaults to reporting UTC as your timezone, so you get half the year the correct time if you live in London, UK.

                          And yes, the moment you start to customize your browsing experience with extensions, you become

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                          • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                            But LibreFold in it's default setting also means that it will start in certain default window sizes (so the window/screen size cannot be used for fingerprinting), by default the Canvas API is disabled that many websites use for Image manipulation or rendering complex stuff, ah, and it defaults to reporting UTC as your timezone, so you get half the year the correct time if you live in London, UK.

                            And yes, the moment you start to customize your browsing experience with extensions, you become

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                            #16

                            again more fingerprintable. There is no magic here. The EFF site (if memory serves) has one useful aspect, it shows you how unique your fingerprint is -> how many browsers configs like yours showed up in the month or so at their website. If there are millions others, you are relatively safe. If there only 50000, less so. If there are only 10 other browsers like yours, … -> if it's unique, then it does not matter if you use a VPN or Tor.
                            That's why you should use the Torbrowser with Tor, btw.

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                            • cthw@mstdn.caC cthw@mstdn.ca

                              @petersuber
                              Got my location wrong.
                              Everything else is information needed to communicate:
                              Language
                              Browser
                              Screen stats
                              Time zone
                              Battery level is denied
                              Some cookies stored because but it doesn't realise they are erased on app closure
                              …

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                              #17

                              @CTHW

                              The reason it got your location wrong is because what it's actually detecting is the point at which your computer connected to your internet service provider.

                              Mine was also wrong, but only off by one state. At other times, other sites that purport to know where you're located have been off by as little as half a county. Only once has such a site actually identified the township I'm in, but never the actual town.

                              @petersuber

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                              • evilkiru@techhub.socialE evilkiru@techhub.social

                                @CTHW

                                The reason it got your location wrong is because what it's actually detecting is the point at which your computer connected to your internet service provider.

                                Mine was also wrong, but only off by one state. At other times, other sites that purport to know where you're located have been off by as little as half a county. Only once has such a site actually identified the township I'm in, but never the actual town.

                                @petersuber

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                                #18

                                @EvilKiru @petersuber

                                I use VPN

                                Works …

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                                • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                                  Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                                  https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                                  #Privacy #Surveillance

                                  nabor@troet.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @petersuber Nothing new, only a page that tries to scare people.
                                  sinceyouarrived.world/taken claims to expose browser tracking – but pulls the very trick it accuses: framing mechanics as betrayal.
                                  "Your device volunteered…" = HTTP headers.
                                  "Battery API hidden from you" = Firefox removed it to protect you.
                                  "Browser masked your GPU" = that IS anti-fingerprinting.
                                  Protection reframed as suspicion, protocol as confession, capability as act. Outrage as aesthetic, not awareness.

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                                  • petersuber@fediscience.orgP petersuber@fediscience.org

                                    Great idea: A web page that simply shows you the info your browser shares about you and your system whenever you open a web page.
                                    https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

                                    #Privacy #Surveillance

                                    bund_sb@climatejustice.globalB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @petersuber

                                    "your attention is a commodity " ..

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                                    • meznor@mstdn.socialM meznor@mstdn.social

                                      @petersuber it got a bunch wrong about me

                                      Browser, OS, ISP, battery. All wrong.

                                      rodrigofaustino@bolha.usR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      rodrigofaustino@bolha.us
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                                      #21

                                      @Meznor @petersuber What protection tools do you use?

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                                      • cthw@mstdn.caC cthw@mstdn.ca

                                        @petersuber
                                        Got my location wrong.
                                        Everything else is information needed to communicate:
                                        Language
                                        Browser
                                        Screen stats
                                        Time zone
                                        Battery level is denied
                                        Some cookies stored because but it doesn't realise they are erased on app closure
                                        …

                                        maggiejk@zeroes.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #22

                                        @CTHW @petersuber it had my location as Los Angeles, which is incorrect, but then in the next paragraph it knew I was in the same time zone as New York, which is correct.

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                                        • maggiejk@zeroes.caM maggiejk@zeroes.ca

                                          @CTHW @petersuber it had my location as Los Angeles, which is incorrect, but then in the next paragraph it knew I was in the same time zone as New York, which is correct.

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                                          #23

                                          @maggiejk @petersuber
                                          Same here.
                                          And when I tried to input a different name for date/time it kept the VPN server time.

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