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This car costs $8500.

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  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

    This car costs $8500. Not a typo. Less than 10 racks. And you don't have to put gas in it.

    But we can't have it in the US, because we'd rather have racism and argue about solved problems like birthright citizenship, and should Black people be allowed to vote.

    So you get Cybertrucks instead. Enjoy!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZqRnLp_htE

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    @mekkaokereke We need to drive a tank, otherwise we’ll be killed by a bad guy driving a tank! Also, what if we accidentally drive through a Black neighborhood?!

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    • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

      @loke 170,000? Why such a leap in price? Or what am I (USA) missing/misunderstanding? What causes approx 8x the price?

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      @cascheranno @loke
      Singapore is too densely populated for cars so they tax them

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      • theron29@witter.czT theron29@witter.cz

        @nirak @mekkaokereke I mean, yeah, probably, but I'd rather not have my personal data with Communist Party of China... 😒

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        @theron29 @nirak @mekkaokereke Weird choice to focus on xenophobia rather than privacy as a general precept

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        • donaldball@triangletoot.partyD donaldball@triangletoot.party

          @theron29 @nirak @mekkaokereke Weird choice to focus on xenophobia rather than privacy as a general precept

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          @donaldball @nirak @mekkaokereke Oh... How so?

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          • jonshell@mastodon.energyJ jonshell@mastodon.energy

            @sidereal @robloblaw @johne @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke this is the thing that somehow doesn’t make it into the media narratives.

            Being an EV driver I make a point of talking to EV drivers.

            The response is always“my EV needs no maintenance”. Sure, tires, wipers, cabin air filters and wiper fluid but that’s it.

            Took my VW in for a “service inspection”. Service desk person says “EVs don’t need servicing. This is a formality”.

            How is it that this story is not making it into the news?

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            @jonshell @sidereal @robloblaw @johne @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke The amount of money I've spent on the suspension on my (non-EV) car over the last few years, I suspect you're going to get surprised at some point.

            You might not need to deal with an internal combustion engine, but there's a whole load of things that *aren't* the engine to go wrong, too.

            I'm sure the EV is still cheaper overall, but you're missing some fairly major things from your list of stuff that's going to need work.

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            • rndanger@infosec.exchangeR rndanger@infosec.exchange

              @cascheranno @loke
              Singapore is too densely populated for cars so they tax them

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              @RnDanger @cascheranno Right. It's highly taxed (130% import tax, if I'm not wrong). But the majority of the cost comes from the fact that you need a 'certificate of entitlement', which is a permit to drive the car that is valid for 10 years.

              In order to control the number of cars on the roads, they only issue a certain number of these certificates every month, and they are auctioned off so the cost depends on demand.

              The current prices can be found here: https://www.motorist.sg/coe-results

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              • jeffmcneill@hachyderm.ioJ jeffmcneill@hachyderm.io

                @mekkaokereke My BYD Dolphin cost 569,000 Thai Baht. That is around 17,500 USD. It is a compact car (not subcompact) and it is a joy to drive. Why does a decent electric car cost nearly twice that in the US? Clearly they've lost the plot.

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                @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke substantial subsidies by the Chinese govt. But the US govt has also greatly subsidized manufacturing over the years, like bailing them out in 2009.

                I wouldn't be terribly upset if the govt of China wants to pay for half of my EV, if I can get one of the 50k that will be imported to Canada with a low 7% tarrif. That seems like a good deal for me.

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                  @sidereal @jonshell @robloblaw @johne @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke Sure. I even said that.

                  I just don't want to see EV maintenance oversold as nothing more than "tyres, wipers, air filters and wiper fluid". There's going to be other things, some of them much more expensive than the above list.

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                  • lightfighter@infosec.exchangeL lightfighter@infosec.exchange

                    @riley @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke Banning the import of Chinese EV's for the past decade and choices made by domestic manufactures made it so there are no cheap options.

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                    @riley @Lightfighter @jeffmcneill @mekkaokereke
                    Because corporations want you to be in perpetual debt.

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      This car costs $8500. Not a typo. Less than 10 racks. And you don't have to put gas in it.

                      But we can't have it in the US, because we'd rather have racism and argue about solved problems like birthright citizenship, and should Black people be allowed to vote.

                      So you get Cybertrucks instead. Enjoy!

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZqRnLp_htE

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                      @mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io chinese evs are seriously impressive

                      specs are on wikipedia
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_QQ3#Third_generation_(2026)

                      it's definitely small by US standards, but not unprecedented being about the same size as a mini clubman or mitsubishi mirage

                      it would probably need some changes to meet US safety standards but i think chinese safety standards aren't that bad now so maybe it wouldn't need much. only other problem i see is that the 78 mph top speed would probably need to be increased but that probably wouldn't be too hard

                      too bad we'll never get anything like this, just a bunch of oversized, ludicrously expensive SUV EVs

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