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You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago

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  • postie@possum.cityP postie@possum.city

    @ocean@raru.re
    if anyone else wanted to read the rest of the artaicle, the screenshot is from the following article:
    https://journalrecord.com/2025/02/20/is-google-making-search-worse-to-sell-more-ads/

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    #165

    @postie @ocean did you find a link to the court documents

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    • els@sfba.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #166

      @ocean @pluralistic created a term for this corporate behavior. He calls it “enshittification” and he’d written a lot about it.

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      • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK kkarhan@infosec.space

        @ocean TF2 Heavy Voice "Not big surprise!"

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        #167

        @ocean also confirmed true...

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        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
          Turns out that was on purpose

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          #168

          @ocean We already knew, but a reminder is always welcome:
          https://www.wheresyoured.at/requiem-for-raghavan/
          https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

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          • K kevin999@mastodon.sdf.org

            @ocean Search "ten blue links" and follow the instructions for making your default browser google-web. The udf=14? tag improves results significantly. Check my syntax on that...

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            #169

            @kevin999
            @ocean

            Unfortunately udm=14 appears to be getting stripped out of URL after search, and I'm getting the local product purchase results.

            Google warned a couple months ago it was going to enshitify, I mean, "AI enhance," the web results.. I guess it's here.

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            &udm=14 Search Hack: Could It Be In Danger Of Breaking?

            My popular single-serving site that works around Google’s AI snippets could, unfortunately, see an infusion of AI soon. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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            Tedium: The Dull Side of the Internet. (tedium.co)

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            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

              @TerrorBite @aetios @ocean I've already found a new one & it has quickly become my favorite. My current conspiracy theory is that everything will be ok.

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              #170

              @jackemled @TerrorBite @aetios @ocean Call me a conspirator.

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              • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                Turns out that was on purpose

                alexjusino@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #171

                @ocean that is just evil

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                • wonka@chaos.socialW wonka@chaos.social

                  @ocean If that is not enshittification as defined by @pluralistic...

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                  #172

                  @wonka @ocean @pluralistic And in fact @pluralistic has an excellent series about this at: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1353-understood/episode/16142603-introducing-understood-who-broke-the-internet (or what I'm sure will be excellent - I've only listened to the first so far)

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                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                    #173

                    @ocean the GDPR really got them spinning. but they would have gotten there eventually anyway.

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                    • m0xee@nosh0b10.m0xee.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #174
                      @bigmattoidchimpin@annihilation.social @WandererUber@poa.st @ocean@raru.re
                      Ha-ha-ha-ha! Yeah, that's exactly why I called it machine-assisted translation — it wasn't a translation per se, more like a rough draft to work with. If you were doing translation commercially it could save you some time, but you still had to speak both languages to work with it. Software like that often included tools for proofreading and additional dictionaries you could plug in as it couldn't even detect the context — the field the text is from and you had to give it a few kicks in the back to get better results: that's a medical text, that's an engineering article, etc. Using wrong dictionaries could give you really funny results 😂
                      The technology later got adopted in a more mainstream way, but the results were… yeah, like that 🤭
                      When I use Google Translate via SimplyTranslate today I get thrown back to those days: like WTF is this?!!! This word obviously has different meaning in this context! I'm using it to translate posts in foreign languages on Fedi and it's still somewhat usable for that, but in its current form I sure won't be using it to write comments in foreign languages. I'm just not confident about the results AT ALL 😅
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                      • m0xee@nosh0b10.m0xee.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #175
                        @Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com @ocean@raru.re
                        Noticed that too! I'm keeping no cookies — they are getting cleaned up as soon as I close the tab, Google should know nothing about the region. The IP addresses I'm using are detected either as US or as Polish in all the GeoIP databases, and yet Español… where did THAT come from? 😂
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                        • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                          You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                          Turns out that was on purpose

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                          @ocean Do you have a link to that info on Google that you can share? Thanks in advance.

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                          • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                            @prisixia @ocean @Stellar No libraries anymore, at least not in the USA. Libraries are also much slower to update information & don't have the obscure topics alot of people look up, such as how to install pyssnshit (everyone's favorite python script), or the history of the use of sewing machines in Australia. Any libraries that are still operational are going to be horrifically underfunded & not even have a card index to search them with, & with certain governments restricting access to certain written knowledge (Germany 1940s, USA 2020s), alot of very important things that libraries have are about to disappear. Libraries may have been the backup plan when the Internet failed at one point, but now the Internet is the backup plan for libraries failing, but the most important parts of the Internet are failing at the same time. I have not heard well of libraries in other countries either. For most places in the world it may be fine, but for many they aren't a solution.

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                            @jackemled @prisixia @ocean @Stellar

                            The US has one of the strongest network of public library systems in the world.

                            There have been forced closures and reduced funding around the country, yeah; but thousands of public libraries in the US continue to exist. Some with increased local support to keep up with rising costs. Almost all libraries in this century use digital catalogs based off database matching for searches and have staff that will pick up a phone to call contacts for obscure resources like for specialty books at universities. Many have suscriptions to journals and teaching services. Visiting a library regularly increases knowledge sharing as the staff, patrons, and event hosts swap info from shared interests.

                            I get the feeling, tho, that you're talking about a near future where the federal government has taken over the state goverments and its companies have corrupted all digital systems? Or, what are you describing?

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                            • shadowfals@toot.catS shadowfals@toot.cat

                              @jackemled @prisixia @ocean @Stellar

                              The US has one of the strongest network of public library systems in the world.

                              There have been forced closures and reduced funding around the country, yeah; but thousands of public libraries in the US continue to exist. Some with increased local support to keep up with rising costs. Almost all libraries in this century use digital catalogs based off database matching for searches and have staff that will pick up a phone to call contacts for obscure resources like for specialty books at universities. Many have suscriptions to journals and teaching services. Visiting a library regularly increases knowledge sharing as the staff, patrons, and event hosts swap info from shared interests.

                              I get the feeling, tho, that you're talking about a near future where the federal government has taken over the state goverments and its companies have corrupted all digital systems? Or, what are you describing?

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                              @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar Maybe I'm not seeing it because I'm in a very conservative area & constantly hearing about threats to city & state libraries in other places. In my home town too our libraries weren't great & never got anything digital besides one desktop computer meant for accessing one state research paper library & nothing else. I haven't been home for a few years so I'm unsure how they're doing now, but I doubt any books about gender or sexuality are still there with the local politics. Libraries will always be important resources, but books are fundamentally fragile devices that can't be easily duplicated & distributed out of control like digital information.

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                              • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar Maybe I'm not seeing it because I'm in a very conservative area & constantly hearing about threats to city & state libraries in other places. In my home town too our libraries weren't great & never got anything digital besides one desktop computer meant for accessing one state research paper library & nothing else. I haven't been home for a few years so I'm unsure how they're doing now, but I doubt any books about gender or sexuality are still there with the local politics. Libraries will always be important resources, but books are fundamentally fragile devices that can't be easily duplicated & distributed out of control like digital information.

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                                @shadowfals @prisixia @ocean @Stellar It's more like the present & my worries for the very near future. The Library of Alexandria was burned by the Romans, & I don't see why it can't happen again to any library, especially since it has happened again numerous times.

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                                • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                  You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                  Turns out that was on purpose

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                                  @ocean Indian CEOs. Every time.

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                                  • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                    You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                    Turns out that was on purpose

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                                    @ocean On my quick scroll through the replies, I don’t see anyone mention this article; Zitron tells the whole story;

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                                    The Man Who Killed Google Search

                                    Wanna listen to this story instead? Check out this week's Better Offline podcast, "The Man That Destroyed Google Search," available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. UPDATE: Prabhakar has now been deposed as head of search, read here for more details. This is the story

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                                    Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At (www.wheresyoured.at)

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                                    • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                      You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                      Turns out that was on purpose

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                                      @ocean

                                      No surprise there.

                                      And that is why I keep DuckDuckGo at the ready. I can't tell you how many times I've found what I need there after coming up empty handed with Google.

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                                      • ocean@raru.reO ocean@raru.re

                                        You noticed how google search became unusably shit a few years ago?
                                        Turns out that was on purpose

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                                        #183

                                        I've noticed this, too.

                                        Sometimes, I'm getting Google results that don't even mention my search term.

                                        Your post convinced me to move away from Google, but I still need to find a new search engine.

                                        #google @ocean

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                                          @ocean I didn't know. I've been using Qwant for years.

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