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  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

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    @jwcph

    A handful of drones.... a handful of drones.....

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    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

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      @jwcph I saw someone who said "People who fly frequently are helping to cook the planet" and its like no, people with Private Jets™ that's got frequently are helping cook the planet

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      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

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        @jwcph Okay but now I'm wondering if this person comes from somewhere with really small Greyhound buses that only seat 30 people?

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        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

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          @jwcph Putting the blame for destroying the planet exclusively on oil executives is like putting the blame for the excess of superhero movies exclusively on Marvel Studios. It takes two to tango, and too many of us are only too willing to dance.

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          • eribosot@mastodon.socialE eribosot@mastodon.social

            @jwcph Putting the blame for destroying the planet exclusively on oil executives is like putting the blame for the excess of superhero movies exclusively on Marvel Studios. It takes two to tango, and too many of us are only too willing to dance.

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            @eribosot
            @jwcph
            Do you think that people always have the capacity of choice?

            Would you agree, that the amount of blame should correlate with how much capacity they had to choose?

            I do agree with you, that blaming those billionaires does not free the rest of us from blame.
            At the same time I agree with this thread, that these people are clearly and freely choosing evil. So they deserve mounts of blaim.

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              @jwcph And several times a year a large portion of them are all in one place.

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                @eribosot
                @jwcph
                Do you think that people always have the capacity of choice?

                Would you agree, that the amount of blame should correlate with how much capacity they had to choose?

                I do agree with you, that blaming those billionaires does not free the rest of us from blame.
                At the same time I agree with this thread, that these people are clearly and freely choosing evil. So they deserve mounts of blaim.

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                @blackoverflow @jwcph

                I find the question of who's to blame much less interesting or important than fixing the problem. Yes, they are vastly more to blame than we are. But blaming them -or ourselves- does nothing to fix the problem.

                The mindset I see is one of good and evil, or sin and redemption. But when a house is on fire, you first grab a bucket and put out the fire, and only later figure out who was the arsonist.

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                • eribosot@mastodon.socialE eribosot@mastodon.social

                  @blackoverflow @jwcph

                  I find the question of who's to blame much less interesting or important than fixing the problem. Yes, they are vastly more to blame than we are. But blaming them -or ourselves- does nothing to fix the problem.

                  The mindset I see is one of good and evil, or sin and redemption. But when a house is on fire, you first grab a bucket and put out the fire, and only later figure out who was the arsonist.

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                  @eribosot @blackoverflow Oh, fuck off.

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                  • eribosot@mastodon.socialE eribosot@mastodon.social

                    @blackoverflow @jwcph

                    I find the question of who's to blame much less interesting or important than fixing the problem. Yes, they are vastly more to blame than we are. But blaming them -or ourselves- does nothing to fix the problem.

                    The mindset I see is one of good and evil, or sin and redemption. But when a house is on fire, you first grab a bucket and put out the fire, and only later figure out who was the arsonist.

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                    @eribosot @blackoverflow @jwcph to stay in your image the arsonist hasn't left the scene and is pouring gasoline on the house with a fire hose while you have a bucket.

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                    • eribosot@mastodon.socialE eribosot@mastodon.social

                      @blackoverflow @jwcph

                      I find the question of who's to blame much less interesting or important than fixing the problem. Yes, they are vastly more to blame than we are. But blaming them -or ourselves- does nothing to fix the problem.

                      The mindset I see is one of good and evil, or sin and redemption. But when a house is on fire, you first grab a bucket and put out the fire, and only later figure out who was the arsonist.

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                      @eribosot
                      @jwcph
                      And to fix the problem, it needs avenues of action.

                      Actions that can't happen without the capacity to choose.

                      Individual action will not fix this problem.

                      For collective action to happen, the collective needs to join behind a common goal.

                      For this to happen, it needs voices of anger and discontent. It also needs blame, to put pressure on those who have the capacity to choose.

                      Unrest is a social function which has it's function.

                      It is dangerous, but also needed.

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                      • B blackoverflow@norden.social

                        @eribosot
                        @jwcph
                        And to fix the problem, it needs avenues of action.

                        Actions that can't happen without the capacity to choose.

                        Individual action will not fix this problem.

                        For collective action to happen, the collective needs to join behind a common goal.

                        For this to happen, it needs voices of anger and discontent. It also needs blame, to put pressure on those who have the capacity to choose.

                        Unrest is a social function which has it's function.

                        It is dangerous, but also needed.

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                        @eribosot
                        @jwcph

                        Or, to use your image:

                        "Hey everyone, help! Jeff is setting out home on fire! What the fuck! We need to act now!"

                        No one is hoping that the climate is fixed when these people are stopped.

                        The need to be stopped, so they don't continue to make it worse.

                        And we need to make it clear, that we don't tolerate thesre evil actions.

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