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  • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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    @ShadowJonathan

    If I know the name of the product or company from ads I'm almost always actively avoiding to buy said thing. And the ones I still buy are ones I'd have bought without the ads too anyway...

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      @ShadowJonathan idk where i would encouter any adds tbh 😅

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      • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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        @ShadowJonathan surprising that the post doesn't even mention using adblockers

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        • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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          @ShadowJonathan - Right on

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          • drajt@fosstodon.orgD drajt@fosstodon.org

            @wakingrufus @ShadowJonathan more than a decade ago that was always my experience at corporate training courses where the browsers were plain IE or Chrome if you were lucky.

            I dread to think what it's like today for most people who don't install an ad blocker by default.

            I'm old enough to remember using Netscape before you needed an adblocker...

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            @drajt

            @ShadowJonathan
            It's literally unusable. Single websites will consume enough resources to slow down your whole machine.

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            • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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              @ShadowJonathan Hey we do the same things at our house. We mite, change channels or shut off the TV. Also being Canadian we try if at all possible to boycott products from the USA . BABA ( BUY ANYTHING BUT AMERICAN)

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                @ShadowJonathan I use an adblocker wherever I can for accessibility. There are a lot of random advertisement that triggers my OCD.

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                  @ShadowJonathan
                  it's like - manipulation turned into a science and mass-produced

                  i realize i also just described LLMs too

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                    @ShadowJonathan Firefox can make Google the only search tool installable, they can put AI in every menu, they can remove dark and light theme to enforce a single yellow theme with cyan text in Comic Sans, they can add unmutable sounds when you click anything in the browser, I'll still use and love Firefox or Fireforks if that’s the only way to have a decent uBlock Origin working. When I don’t have Firefox, I stop interacting with the internet, I just read books, play offline games and take walks in the forest.
                    I installed it on desktop, laptop, mobile, Steam Deck, Meta Quest 3, etc.

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                    • lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizzaL lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza

                      @melioristicmarie, that image looked right – until I started properly reading it, which led to me noticing that its creator has used “everyday” instead of “every day”.

                      I have something of an allergy to errors like that. 😬

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                      @lp0_on_fire @melioristicmarie I was most annoyed by the hyphenation of "however" as "ho-wever" rather than "how-ever". Oh well, the overall message is right...

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                      • djgummikuh@mastodon.socialD djgummikuh@mastodon.social

                        @ShadowJonathan If I cannot suppress the ads, I do not use the service, plain and simple.

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                        @DJGummikuh @ShadowJonathan Sometimes, I pay the fee. Sometimes, I torrent.

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                        • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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                          @ShadowJonathan Absolutely. My own "adaphylaxis" (to coin a term) reaches the extreme point that if I see an ad that's not in a place I'm willing to see an ad (and that is a vanishingly small set of spaces) I make a note to specifically avoid that product.

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                          • redsad@ohai.socialR redsad@ohai.social

                            @ShadowJonathan wait not everyone cusses out their TV when the ads come on?

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                            @redsad @ShadowJonathan I stopped watching TV years ago because of ads (also because TV programs are shit). The TV in this house is for games and streaming and that’s pretty much it.
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                              @ShadowJonathan@tech.lgbt the thing is, they still work. you don’t have to like them, heck, many are designed to be as obnoxious as possible, because it doesn’t matter if you hate them — you just need to connect the brand with a product once you think about it. If it did that, it worked. that’s all it’s supposed to do, that’s all the whole industry tries to achieve.

                              Hate works just as well as love, as long as it’s memorable. Even if you make an effort to avoid the product brand because of the ad, it still means you memorized it and someone else won’t have that fortitude or cares that much. If you think “tissues” and immediately think of Tempo (or whatever), it worked.
                              If you remember the ad but not what it advertised, it was accidental art but a failure, professionally speaking.

                              I’ve worked in this shit industry until it broke me. Never again.

                              And, yes, I refuse to browse the net without an adblocker. This whole system of monetization should be long dead.

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                                @ShadowJonathan
                                If I find I am obliged by advertising to remember a brand, I will avoid that brand like the plague it is, forever.

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                                • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

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                                  @ShadowJonathan that's what makes Mastodon so much more amenable. (Support your server!) It's great to be here, avoiding the noise of capitalism.

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                                  • orangelantern@labyrinth.zoneO orangelantern@labyrinth.zone

                                    @ShadowJonathan@tech.lgbt the thing is, they still work. you don’t have to like them, heck, many are designed to be as obnoxious as possible, because it doesn’t matter if you hate them — you just need to connect the brand with a product once you think about it. If it did that, it worked. that’s all it’s supposed to do, that’s all the whole industry tries to achieve.

                                    Hate works just as well as love, as long as it’s memorable. Even if you make an effort to avoid the product brand because of the ad, it still means you memorized it and someone else won’t have that fortitude or cares that much. If you think “tissues” and immediately think of Tempo (or whatever), it worked.
                                    If you remember the ad but not what it advertised, it was accidental art but a failure, professionally speaking.

                                    I’ve worked in this shit industry until it broke me. Never again.

                                    And, yes, I refuse to browse the net without an adblocker. This whole system of monetization should be long dead.

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                                    @orangelantern @ShadowJonathan

                                    "This whole system of monetization should be long dead."

                                    The "brilliance" of Silicon Valley bros (esp Google) was bidding for eyeballs, being the middlemen, raking in cash.

                                    This was the con media middlemen and distributors made bank on in the 20th century. Insert yourself between the producers and the consumers and get the producers to sign away their rights.

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                                    • wakingrufus@bigshoulders.cityW wakingrufus@bigshoulders.city

                                      @ShadowJonathan
                                      Imagine using the web with no ad blocker... I know some people who do this and I just can't understand it. I had to do it once recently and I almost threw my computer across the room.

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                                      @wakingrufus @ShadowJonathan so sudden urge to throw computer is normal, I guess...
                                      One day I had freshly reinstalled Firefox, without any plugins yet. And friend sent me YT links on chat. Damn...

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                                        @ShadowJonathan yeah and if something is advertised too aggressively - i will actively avoid that thing and look for alternatives every chance i get
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                                          @ShadowJonathan Well, I just bought a new wifi camera because the perfectly-working-old-one decided I needed to watch two ads (with no visible X or skip button) before using the app. I guess that's on me because 10 years ago I went the cheap route and the "service" (allow to see then from outside my network) was convenient (not anymore, learned my lesson)

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