Yup.
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@mekkaokereke people consume copaganda like its Disneyland. (I think that makes sense) in reality though its poorly written supercop BS.
I have to remind myself sometimes how many people think Serpico is the bad guy.
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@mekkaokereke Lately, there have been media reports of people accused of crimes because a traffic camera recorded their license plate while travelling through an area. One woman had to collect evidence that she wasn't who they were looking for because the cops refused to investigate what she had told them.
It's rather scary and getting scarier as this surveillance crap misidentifies people and lazy or overworked police forces don't care.
@mekkaokereke Here are examples of the license plate thing:
"Woman Wrongfully Accused by a License Plate-Reading Camera - Then Exonerated By Camera-Equipped Car"
Woman Wrongfully Accused by a License Plate-Reading Camera - Then Exonerated By Camera-Equipped Car - Worldnews.com
CBS News investigates what happened when police thought they'd tracked down a "porch pirate" who'd stolen a package — and accused an innocent woman. "You know why I'm here," the police sergeant tells Chrisanna Elser. "You know we have cameras in that town..." "It went right into, 'we have video of you stealing a package,'" Elser said... "Can I see the video?" Elser asked. "If you go to court, you can," the officer replied. "If you're going to deny it, I'm not going to extend you any
(article.wn.com)
Woman accused of a drive-by shooting. She deserved more, but at least got some restitution.
Accused of car theft.
When license plate readers get it wrong
Automated license plate reader technology is used by law enforcement agencies in communities across the U.S. — but the systems sometimes get things wrong.
(www.cbsnews.com)
And in Ontario:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/windsor/article/automated-license-plate-readers-leads-to-arrest-in-chatham/
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Copaganda convinces you that most of these people are running around being Detective Stabler, protecting women and children from abusers.
The reality is that most of them are arresting poor Black people for no reason, causing those Black folk to lose their jobs, housing, and custody of their kids.
I'll let you look up the increase in probability of a child being sexually assaulted once they enter the foster care system. Because again, if I told you how much more likely it is, you would not believe me.
Cops are not protecting kids from abuse. They're putting millions more kids in harm's way.
But many people believe that cops are protecting kids rather than causing more kids to be hurt, because they believe the disinformation of copaganda shows on news framing, more than they believe Black people or the police's own data, or their own "lying eyes."
️And in case anyone thinks I'm being hyperbolic about the wide gap between how Law and Order: SVU presents the world, and the reality of policing, read thia article.
Gift Link from the writer, Nina Metz of the Chicago Tribune:
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Back to our white lady.
We talked about how CECOT was a torture prison, because they put people in solitary confinement for 23 hrs a day.
And we talk about how slave labor camps are bad.
Prison guards can require this white lady to do free labor, using an exception to US anti-slavery laws.
This white lady could say, "Look, I'm innocent! This is all a big mistake! I just want to sit in my cell and mind my own business until the public defender can get this all sorted out! I don't want to make auto parts, or pick cotton on the prison farm!"
She can be sent to solitary for refusing.
@mekkaokereke Forced labor for folks pending trial is NOT constitutional. The 13th amendment carveout explicitly states this: "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted". The requirement is having been convicted, not just being held pending trial.
This doesn't mean jailers don't apply it unconstitutionally anyway, but the text is abundantly clear.
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@mekkaokereke Forced labor for folks pending trial is NOT constitutional. The 13th amendment carveout explicitly states this: "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted". The requirement is having been convicted, not just being held pending trial.
This doesn't mean jailers don't apply it unconstitutionally anyway, but the text is abundantly clear.
@mekkaokereke Likewise, forced labor for folks imprisoned on immigration violations pending deportation proceedings is not constitutional. Because immigration violations are not crimes, even if a court has already found that a violation occurred.
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@mekkaokereke Learning about your bail system and plea bargaining, in which even innocent people are coerced into pleading guilty in order to get a sentence less than the maximum if taken to trial, knowing that cops don't care about catching guilty people, are more interested in closing cases and once they focus on someone, they stop looking for more evidence with regards to anyone else, it makes one wonder how many innocent people are in jail.
@CStamp @mekkaokereke I'm going to guess a lot, and those flock cameras need to go.
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@mekkaokereke Likewise, forced labor for folks imprisoned on immigration violations pending deportation proceedings is not constitutional. Because immigration violations are not crimes, even if a court has already found that a violation occurred.
@mekkaokereke I don't know if there are details I'm missing where authorities fought back against her rights, but the above case feels to me like an incredibly sad situation where neither she nor anyone who might care about her had any knowledge or expectation of having rights to challenge the bullshit arrest, extradition, and continued jailing. And that's way too common in this country, whether it's complete lack of education or well-informed cynicism about the authorities you're dealing with and the institutions that are supposed to protect you.
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When I tell y'all how many people work for the NYPD, and that their budget ($12B/yr) is greater than the military budget of almost every country on earth, people think I'm exaggerating.
I'm not.
So when they say that they "Don't have enough resources," to pursue all the sex crimes or thefts? They are lying.
@mekkaokereke Fuck, I knew the budget and personnel for NYPD was insane, but actually seeing that many of them literally in uniform paints an even clearer picture
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Every police "use of force" policy is in place for a very good reason. But cop shows present them as obstacles that get in the way of justice being done.
In real life Detective Stabler is Derek Chauvin, and DA Jack McCoy is the DA that let Kalief Browder be abused in jail for 3 years while innocent.
There are so many Law and Order SVU fans. They believe that the police force spends a lot of its time and resources on solving sex crimes or crimes against children.
The reality is that after spending *billions* on policing, cops have the audacity to pretend that "Rape kit backlog" is a real thing.
Shows that feature protagonists as police is propaganda. All of them. No exceptions. Even Dark Winds, the Navaho police show.
Or better called: Copaganda.
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When I tell y'all how many people work for the NYPD, and that their budget ($12B/yr) is greater than the military budget of almost every country on earth, people think I'm exaggerating.
I'm not.
So when they say that they "Don't have enough resources," to pursue all the sex crimes or thefts? They are lying.
@mekkaokereke Why are the public figures ~$6.4 billion? Is there something they're not including that you are? https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2024/03/056-NYPD.pdf
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Copaganda convinces you that most of these people are running around being Detective Stabler, protecting women and children from abusers.
The reality is that most of them are arresting poor Black people for no reason, causing those Black folk to lose their jobs, housing, and custody of their kids.
I'll let you look up the increase in probability of a child being sexually assaulted once they enter the foster care system. Because again, if I told you how much more likely it is, you would not believe me.
Cops are not protecting kids from abuse. They're putting millions more kids in harm's way.
But many people believe that cops are protecting kids rather than causing more kids to be hurt, because they believe the disinformation of copaganda shows on news framing, more than they believe Black people or the police's own data, or their own "lying eyes."
️@mekkaokereke also why I hated the show “24" because it was saying "only this hero can solve these problems in 24 hours" which frequently would just ignore laws and processes meant to protect people, papering over just how good he is and that this allows him this leeway. If only every superman out there was as ethical and moral as Superman.
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Yup.
The biggest factors in the delta between what cops actually do, and white white folk incorrectly think they do:
1) Copaganda TV shows
2) Framing by newspapers and TV news
Without this sustained disinformation campaign against Black people, white folk would not accept this level of racism.
️@mekkaokereke We start 'em young, too. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2948356/
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@mekkaokereke Why are the public figures ~$6.4 billion? Is there something they're not including that you are? https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2024/03/056-NYPD.pdf
The ~$6B number doesn't include pensions, budgets, and overtime.
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Shows that feature protagonists as police is propaganda. All of them. No exceptions. Even Dark Winds, the Navaho police show.
Or better called: Copaganda.
@crankylinuxuser @mekkaokereke
"CURSES: He's lawyered up"
"CURSES: He's hung up the phone before the minimum 2 minutes to trace their location!"
"Ok, ok, this is OFF THE RECORD, you can tell me"
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@mekkaokereke We start 'em young, too. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2948356/
Yeah, I watched Copaganda for kids shows before I let my kids watch them.
Paw Patrol is banned in my house.
Zootopia is allowed, because it shows that:
* Police just do whatever the mayor tells them to do, good or bad.
* Some cops are good, some cops are bad. They're just people.
* Cops are used as the violent enforcement arm of systems of prejudice and injustice.
* Even "good cops" who are victims of prejudice themselves, can turn around and be prejudiced against others, and cause systemic harm.One of the funniest things I've seen online was a meme that said "ACAB includes Officer Hopps!"
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When I tell y'all how many people work for the NYPD, and that their budget ($12B/yr) is greater than the military budget of almost every country on earth, people think I'm exaggerating.
I'm not.
So when they say that they "Don't have enough resources," to pursue all the sex crimes or thefts? They are lying.
@mekkaokereke ISTR that if their uniforms were green they’d be the world’s fifth biggest army.
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The ~$6B number doesn't include pensions, budgets, and overtime.
@mekkaokereke Yeah i figured pensions and such would be a big part of it. And healthcare and such i'd imagine.
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Shows that feature protagonists as police is propaganda. All of them. No exceptions. Even Dark Winds, the Navaho police show.
Or better called: Copaganda.
@crankylinuxuser @mekkaokereke Columbo isn't. All his fellow cops are idiots, he lets small crimes slide, and he shields minorities from racist colleagues. Every episode is a wish fulfilment fantasy (related to the revenge flick, narratively) about how the power of deduction and the law can be used to bring down evil rich people. (I'd also argue that Twin Peaks should be exempt, but that's a little shakier since the whole department of hyper-intelligent weirdos in the FBI thing isn't realistic.)
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When I tell y'all how many people work for the NYPD, and that their budget ($12B/yr) is greater than the military budget of almost every country on earth, people think I'm exaggerating.
I'm not.
So when they say that they "Don't have enough resources," to pursue all the sex crimes or thefts? They are lying.
@mekkaokereke imagine how much crime would go down if they repurposed a small fraction of that money to things which actually reduce crime
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Copaganda convinces you that most of these people are running around being Detective Stabler, protecting women and children from abusers.
The reality is that most of them are arresting poor Black people for no reason, causing those Black folk to lose their jobs, housing, and custody of their kids.
I'll let you look up the increase in probability of a child being sexually assaulted once they enter the foster care system. Because again, if I told you how much more likely it is, you would not believe me.
Cops are not protecting kids from abuse. They're putting millions more kids in harm's way.
But many people believe that cops are protecting kids rather than causing more kids to be hurt, because they believe the disinformation of copaganda shows on news framing, more than they believe Black people or the police's own data, or their own "lying eyes."
️I live in one of the farthest left cities in one of the farthest left states in the US
I was seriously worried about a situation with some (white) neighbor kids, including physical abuse and their dad shooting up in front of them
My mom put me in touch with a friend who had worked for foster services
The friend asked me a lot of details, and then told me frankly that foster care would be worse, that they were better with parents who loved them, even though the environment was far from ideal
