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  3. It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it.

It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it.

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  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

    It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

    Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

    #AI #Google

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    @Vivaldi @jon is there any roadmap from chromium to an alternative engine like servo in future to cut them off entirely?

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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

      Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

      #AI #Google

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      @Vivaldi It's one thing to fight this on the web, but it's another battle entirely when it starts polluting native search APIs. The App Store is already a mess; I don't need this fight on my own turf too.

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      • ramblingsteve@floss.socialR ramblingsteve@floss.social

        @Vivaldi @jon is there any roadmap from chromium to an alternative engine like servo in future to cut them off entirely?

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        @ramblingsteve @Vivaldi @jon This please!

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        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

          It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

          Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

          #AI #Google

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          @Vivaldi @jon still, you are helping Google in making their thing the entire browser ecosystem 😞 we have been at a point where making a chromium based thing is actively harmful for some time.

          And I'm not attacking you (I actually like Vivaldi, it's the only chromium based thing I recommend to people who can't get used to Firefox or any of its forks), just pointing out the current situation is shit.

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          • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

            It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

            Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

            #AI #Google

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            @Vivaldi IDK, opt-in is looking practically Utopian at this point.

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            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

              It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

              Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

              #AI #Google

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              @Vivaldi @jon servo engine when

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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

                Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

                #AI #Google

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                @Vivaldi @jon Switched to DDG and Qwant, months ago, and haven't looked back.

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                • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                  It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

                  Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

                  #AI #Google

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                  @Vivaldi @jon Be strong, stay strong. This fight is not yours only: it’s ours, for all of us. Don’t forget it. 💪

                  As long as you’ll stay here, there still be hope for that better Web we all want to preserve.

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                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                    It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

                    Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

                    #AI #Google

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                    @Vivaldi @jon what was "yesterday's announcement"?

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                    • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

                      @Vivaldi @jon what was "yesterday's announcement"?

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                      @sorenladegaard @Vivaldi @jon https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

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                        @frobisher @Vivaldi @jon

                        you can use duckduckgo without AI

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                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                          It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

                          Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

                          #AI #Google

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                          @Vivaldi @jon

                          A decentrilsed search engine. No AI, no tracking. No advertising. No javascript of any kind. Never pay for it. Anyone can setup their own "branch" and contribute. Why does this sound so much like the #Fediverse? I could use some help with the system I've building for over a year and with corporations selling us out, we can band together to take the internet back.


                          This is what the internet was BEFORE the corprite take over.

                          This is #TidySearch https://search.mpaq.org

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                            @frobisher @Vivaldi @jon

                            Try Startpage or Mojeek.

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                            • sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.netS sorenladegaard@social.vivaldi.net

                              @Vivaldi @jon what was "yesterday's announcement"?

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                              @sorenladegaard @Vivaldi @jon

                              That essentially search results from Google search will be replaced by an AI "conversation".

                              It's as dumb as it sounds.

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                              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                It's not a secret that Google isn't the apple of our eye (there's a reason why we don't make any money from search deals with them) but yesterday's announcement about the changes coming to Google Search are plain depressing for the web as we know it. What started as a joke (the famous "It's not AI" video with @jon), is starting to feel dystopian at this point.

                                Anyway. Swimming against the current is exhausting, but the fight for a better web is more important than ever. And as long as there’s people willing to take the fight, there’s hope. 🔥 So we'll keep resisting: no opt-in, no opt-out, no nonsense. ✊

                                #AI #Google

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                                @Vivaldi @jon
                                I thought Vivaldi is based on Google's Chromium. Did I miss something?

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                                  @frobisher @Vivaldi @jon Unless I've missed something awful about Startpage (entirely possible as we approach Peak Enshittification so quickly) they seem ok

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @frobisher @Vivaldi @jon

                                    you can use duckduckgo without AI

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    DuckDuckGo - Protection. Privacy. Peace of mind.

                                    The Internet privacy company that empowers you to seamlessly take control of your personal information online, without any tradeoffs.

                                    favicon

                                    DuckDuckGo (noai.duckduckgo.com)

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                                    @benroyce

                                    Unless you are on McDonald's WiFi. I've found they block the no AI version 🤬

                                    @frobisher @Vivaldi @jon

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                                    • gre@oldbytes.spaceG gre@oldbytes.space

                                      @Vivaldi @jon Switched to DDG and Qwant, months ago, and haven't looked back.

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                                      @gre @Vivaldi @jon Ddg? Im using qwant too but never heard of ddg. Qwant is pretty neat. As far as I know they don't have problematic policies. If something, they have AI but you can disable it (i think completely)
                                      But heck, even ecosia has ai so...

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                                        @gre @Vivaldi @jon Ddg? Im using qwant too but never heard of ddg. Qwant is pretty neat. As far as I know they don't have problematic policies. If something, they have AI but you can disable it (i think completely)
                                        But heck, even ecosia has ai so...

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                                        @FrutigerAero00 @Vivaldi @jon I switch over to Duck Duck Go when Qwant tries to tell me that the rest of the search results aren't relevant.

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                                        • trittriton@shelter.moeT trittriton@shelter.moe

                                          @Vivaldi @jon Be strong, stay strong. This fight is not yours only: it’s ours, for all of us. Don’t forget it. 💪

                                          As long as you’ll stay here, there still be hope for that better Web we all want to preserve.

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                                          @TritTriton 🥹❤️

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