Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
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Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral I don't think Sanchez has any control over firing them (which doesn't mean I'm excusing his lack of response - Irene Montero and Ione Belarra were on top of it straight away). The Erzaintza are regional, controlled by the autonomous Basque region.
ICYMI, they're trained by the IOF.
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Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral the vasque police (not even the spanish central one, the Policia Nacional that is well know to be right-leaning and anti-Euskadi independence or autonomy) did it so that people would do what you are doing, criticise the Spanish Government, a government that doesn't even control that autonomic police force.
The israeli government is doing exactly the same, calling it "double standards". The zionist ruse seems to have worked...
[Thank you @javi for pointing out that it wasn't the Spanish police, but "vasque on vasque"] -
Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral i'm afraid spanish ministries of inner affairs and defensa are way closer to genociders than to Pedro. It' the key aspect of the 'peaceful' transition to democracy: violence monopoly and economics are into control of dictatorship heritage members no matter what
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Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral actually, direct command over Ertzaintza, the Basque Autonomic Police that raided the Flotilla members rests on PNV, the 'Basque Nationalist Party', not Pedro Sanchez PSOE. (Although PSOE is also part of the current Basque Government).
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@aral actually, direct command over Ertzaintza, the Basque Autonomic Police that raided the Flotilla members rests on PNV, the 'Basque Nationalist Party', not Pedro Sanchez PSOE. (Although PSOE is also part of the current Basque Government).
@joxe Well that explains a thing or two. Does Pedro have any levers he can pull or is he helpless?
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@aral the vasque police (not even the spanish central one, the Policia Nacional that is well know to be right-leaning and anti-Euskadi independence or autonomy) did it so that people would do what you are doing, criticise the Spanish Government, a government that doesn't even control that autonomic police force.
The israeli government is doing exactly the same, calling it "double standards". The zionist ruse seems to have worked...
[Thank you @javi for pointing out that it wasn't the Spanish police, but "vasque on vasque"]Yes, but this wasn't the Spanish police, this is the vasque police that doesn't report to the central government, but to the vasque government (currently ruled by their main independentist right wing party).
I mean, not that the Spanish police is not brutal enough, but this case is a pure vasque thing -
@joxe Well that explains a thing or two. Does Pedro have any levers he can pull or is he helpless?
@aral We're still waiting for an explanation from the Basque Gvt. I'm not an expert but I'd say Sanchez has a bigger need of PNV support in Madrid than PNV needs PSOE support in the basque gvt, so probably PSOE position will be something like 'oh, come on, we all make mistakes from time to time'. But let's see...
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Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral Glad to find someone else is aware and publicising this shocking behaviour - any one needing more details, I've pinned two separate videos at the top of my profile of this shocking behaviour.
The fact it's Spain is the most shocking to me.
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Yes, but this wasn't the Spanish police, this is the vasque police that doesn't report to the central government, but to the vasque government (currently ruled by their main independentist right wing party).
I mean, not that the Spanish police is not brutal enough, but this case is a pure vasque thing@javi even I was misinformed then, I'll correct my post (with mention to the reason of the edit). And yet, this is being used by the israeli government to call out Spain's central government "double standards"...
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@joxe Well that explains a thing or two. Does Pedro have any levers he can pull or is he helpless?
@aral The central government (PSOE, Sánchez) as a rule can't/won't interfere in anything on which the regions have that particular power. This reaches you because it's an international question, but this dynamic in which a regional government makes a big mistake, or negligence, or cruelty, and then public opinion blames the national government? That's the news. Every day.
(i'm not a Sanchez supperter, in general, he just gets blamed for things that it is not in his power to control or punish)
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@javi even I was misinformed then, I'll correct my post (with mention to the reason of the edit). And yet, this is being used by the israeli government to call out Spain's central government "double standards"...
Oh of course, they are going to use everything, misinformation is kind of the Israel main export... but actually flotilla members arrived to different areas of Spain, and it was just the Arzaina (the vasque cops, that very much are explicitly not connected with the central government) the ones that did this mess
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@aral Glad to find someone else is aware and publicising this shocking behaviour - any one needing more details, I've pinned two separate videos at the top of my profile of this shocking behaviour.
The fact it's Spain is the most shocking to me.
@Oyu_Fka @aral Don't be so shocked. That's the Bask country, governed by the right-ghouls. This is pretty normal behaviour by #erzaintza police.
Trained by #IsraelTerroristState
By the way, spanish PM didn't say a word yet.
We have a said in Spain when you get deceived by *Pedro Sanchez's party, "you have BEEN PSOED"
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Oh of course, they are going to use everything, misinformation is kind of the Israel main export... but actually flotilla members arrived to different areas of Spain, and it was just the Arzaina (the vasque cops, that very much are explicitly not connected with the central government) the ones that did this mess
@javi probably because the activist from another vasque wing, or acting without the Vasque government pre-approved support? In Spanish autonomic politics the puzzle is always moving its pieces. The supposed previous attack on the police that "justified" the attack has been shown up, by various video sources, to be false, the activists stopped for a photo with a flag and started to move on when they were tackled into the ground.
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@aral The central government (PSOE, Sánchez) as a rule can't/won't interfere in anything on which the regions have that particular power. This reaches you because it's an international question, but this dynamic in which a regional government makes a big mistake, or negligence, or cruelty, and then public opinion blames the national government? That's the news. Every day.
(i'm not a Sanchez supperter, in general, he just gets blamed for things that it is not in his power to control or punish)
@laguiri @aral @joxe There were lots of people at the airport, confusion and some shoving. Police tend to attack protesters whenever things get a little tense, for no reasonable reason, everywhere. It's just police behaviour as usual, I wouldn't extract conclusions on the government(s) behind (of course they're accountable, I mean I wouldn't assume this attack is part of any political plan or strategy).
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Spain: We’re outraged that Israeli barbarians are brutalising our peace activists… we’re perfectly capable barbarians who can brutalise them ourselves (we were trained by them, after all).
Any word from friend of Palestine, Pedro Sánchez on this? Are all these officers being fired as we speak?
#spain #GazaFlotilla #GazaFlotillaActivists #israel #genocide #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #settlerColonialism
@aral Expecting accountability here is like waiting for Apple to open up iOS out of the goodness of their heart. The system is compiled to protect its own architecture, and those officers are just executing the exact code they were programmed with.
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