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#slackware is still without systemd.

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    #slackware is still without systemd. and "current" really is current.

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      #slackware is still without systemd. and "current" really is current.

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      I used to jokingly give @dcc@annihilation.social shit for running #slackware. Though it honestly does appear to be a perfectly serviceable Linux distribution with even support for package management these days.

      It may end up becoming a viable solution alongside Void and Alpine Linux for some of the more privacy minded individuals that may not want age attestation or verification built into dbus or systemd.

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      • saorsa@neondystopia.worldS saorsa@neondystopia.world
        I used to jokingly give @dcc@annihilation.social shit for running #slackware. Though it honestly does appear to be a perfectly serviceable Linux distribution with even support for package management these days.

        It may end up becoming a viable solution alongside Void and Alpine Linux for some of the more privacy minded individuals that may not want age attestation or verification built into dbus or systemd.

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        Slackware has had a consistent package system for decades. Most of its tools are simple shell scripts, emphasizing transparency and auditability. It avoids automatic dependency resolution by design, so nothing is hidden from the user, what some see as “missing features” is often just a different design choice. You should try it sometime.

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          Slackware has had a consistent package system for decades. Most of its tools are simple shell scripts, emphasizing transparency and auditability. It avoids automatic dependency resolution by design, so nothing is hidden from the user, what some see as “missing features” is often just a different design choice. You should try it sometime.

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          #slackware
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          I remember the gimmick with Slackware other than being one of the first and oldest Linux distributions to appear was that there is no package management. If you wanted to install something, then you would probably have to either compile from source or find a finicky way to reliably install precompiled binaries.

          Far as package management goes, Nix has been the best by far. The language used pushes you toward the declarative installation and configuration of packages. Binaries are built in isolation, so you won't run that many issues with automatic dependency resolution. You can even have multiple versions of a package installed to the system. Other than the language itself, Nix doesn't hide much from you either.

          When you examine Nix against the traditional package managers of Unix-like operating systems, the comparison is like night and day. You'd be hard pressed to find a package manager with that amount of effort and polish put into it. That said, it isn't without its quirks and is definitely an acquired taste in my opinion.

          #nix, #nixos.
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            I remember the gimmick with Slackware other than being one of the first and oldest Linux distributions to appear was that there is no package management. If you wanted to install something, then you would probably have to either compile from source or find a finicky way to reliably install precompiled binaries.

            Far as package management goes, Nix has been the best by far. The language used pushes you toward the declarative installation and configuration of packages. Binaries are built in isolation, so you won't run into that many issues with automatic dependency resolution. You can even have multiple versions of a package installed to the system. Other than the language itself, Nix doesn't hide much from you either.

            When you examine Nix against the traditional package managers of Unix-like operating systems, the comparison is like night and day. You'd be hard pressed to find a package manager with that amount of effort and polish put into it. That said, it isn't without its quirks and is definitely an acquired taste in my opinion.

            *Typo.

            #nix, #nixos.

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