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assembling a few more OtterCam-s3‘s today.

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  • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

    assembling a few more OtterCam-s3‘s today. Haven’t soldered a BGA in a while, so wish me luck

    this shouldn’t be too hard though, it’s a pretty coarse pitch and my technique should still work pretty well

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    two lovely beings recently started working on the firmware again, we now have a bare Debian Linux running on it, 'just' missing the image sensor driver and the mipi to encoder to USB/Ethernet stream pipeline… how ward can it be, right? 😄 we have been working on this since *checks the note on the pcb* 2021.. 😅

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    • scy@chaos.socialS scy@chaos.social

      @janamarie MicroSD slot says owo :3

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      @scy uwu

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      • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

        two lovely beings recently started working on the firmware again, we now have a bare Debian Linux running on it, 'just' missing the image sensor driver and the mipi to encoder to USB/Ethernet stream pipeline… how ward can it be, right? 😄 we have been working on this since *checks the note on the pcb* 2021.. 😅

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        this board is somewhat of a nightmare fuel to networks people, please note the ethernet decoupling.. ~ :3c

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        • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

          this board is somewhat of a nightmare fuel to networks people, please note the ethernet decoupling.. ~ :3c

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          I got this board assembled from JLCPCB, but a lot of components are still missing. This is mostly due to this board being one of the very early boards running through their PCBA process! I actually wrote on their blog about how the PCBA process works at the time, they allowed me to test it very early :3

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          • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

            assembling a few more OtterCam-s3‘s today. Haven’t soldered a BGA in a while, so wish me luck

            this shouldn’t be too hard though, it’s a pretty coarse pitch and my technique should still work pretty well

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            @janamarie Nice „zero parts“ strain relief slot in the pcb and „why shouldn’t I rotate that part 45°“-technique ☺️

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            • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

              this board is somewhat of a nightmare fuel to networks people, please note the ethernet decoupling.. ~ :3c

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              @janamarie where... where is the big chonky transformer??? :s
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              • kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.orgK kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.org
                @janamarie where... where is the big chonky transformer??? :s
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                @kouett there are 4 big capacitors~ :3c

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                • nblr@chaos.socialN nblr@chaos.social

                  @janamarie Nice „zero parts“ strain relief slot in the pcb and „why shouldn’t I rotate that part 45°“-technique ☺️

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                  @nblr if I ever redo this, I will not allow myself any 90° or 45° rotated parts 😄

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                  • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                    @kouett there are 4 big capacitors~ :3c

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                    @janamarie I'm not feeling very well
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                      @domi @evey @kouett both, low in space, meaning I would have had to choose highly integrated receptacles, which would have driven up the boards price. Note that this thing costs about 15€ to assemble.. 😄

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                      • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                        @domi @evey @kouett both, low in space, meaning I would have had to choose highly integrated receptacles, which would have driven up the boards price. Note that this thing costs about 15€ to assemble.. 😄

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                        @janamarie@mystical.garden @evey@chaos.social @kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.org oh! i expected around 2x as much, this is nice

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                        • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                          @domi @evey @kouett both, low in space, meaning I would have had to choose highly integrated receptacles, which would have driven up the boards price. Note that this thing costs about 15€ to assemble.. 😄

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                          @domi @evey @kouett I should add, they can be replaced with 0 Ohm resistors and there is an additional row beneath the receptacle to replace it with a 2.0mm pin header to move it to a second board. The pin-header also would allow for PoE, I planned for this already!

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                          • domi@donotsta.reD domi@donotsta.re

                            @janamarie@mystical.garden @evey@chaos.social @kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.org oh! i expected around 2x as much, this is nice

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                            @domi @evey @kouett this is actually not even my original idea, the first version of the OtterCam is not the OtterCam-s3, but the OtterCam-z7, featuring a Zynq-7020 instead of the Allwinner-s3. I have had a schematic of that since 2020, started it in altium, moved to kicad, redid the schematic twice, once with a Zynq-7015, then the 7020 again with more modern parts in 2024/2025, couldn't bring myself to design the board in the end because I just couldn't afford it at the time and now here we are, the OtterCam-z7 will still happen, maybe soon even, but I kind of want to get the OtterCam-s3 to spit out an image first..

                            Weirdly enough, the z7 would probably have been a bit easier for me alone, I can use Vivado and write gateware, but I really am not good at doing embedded linux and V4L shenanigans

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                            • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                              @domi @evey @kouett this is actually not even my original idea, the first version of the OtterCam is not the OtterCam-s3, but the OtterCam-z7, featuring a Zynq-7020 instead of the Allwinner-s3. I have had a schematic of that since 2020, started it in altium, moved to kicad, redid the schematic twice, once with a Zynq-7015, then the 7020 again with more modern parts in 2024/2025, couldn't bring myself to design the board in the end because I just couldn't afford it at the time and now here we are, the OtterCam-z7 will still happen, maybe soon even, but I kind of want to get the OtterCam-s3 to spit out an image first..

                              Weirdly enough, the z7 would probably have been a bit easier for me alone, I can use Vivado and write gateware, but I really am not good at doing embedded linux and V4L shenanigans

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                              @domi @evey @kouett the OtterCam-z7 will be much more expensive :S

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                              • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                                I got this board assembled from JLCPCB, but a lot of components are still missing. This is mostly due to this board being one of the very early boards running through their PCBA process! I actually wrote on their blog about how the PCBA process works at the time, they allowed me to test it very early :3

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                                clearance.. 😬

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                                • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                                  clearance.. 😬

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                                  @janamarie does it make alignment easier?

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                                  • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                                    clearance.. 😬

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                                    @janamarie ...is clearance, Clarence! If #BlondiHacks taught me anything

                                    And dont call me Shirley

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                                    • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                                      clearance.. 😬

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                                      it boots!!! Soldering the BGA was much more trivial than anticipated, the QFN in the lower left corner was certainly worse…

                                      next up: I think I will do at least a second board and uh, the sensor board, which contains the 'spicy BGA', the image sensor. It’s in theory as easy to solder, but it’s also a rather fragile part, one entire face must not be touched too much

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                                      • janamarie@mystical.gardenJ janamarie@mystical.garden

                                        it boots!!! Soldering the BGA was much more trivial than anticipated, the QFN in the lower left corner was certainly worse…

                                        next up: I think I will do at least a second board and uh, the sensor board, which contains the 'spicy BGA', the image sensor. It’s in theory as easy to solder, but it’s also a rather fragile part, one entire face must not be touched too much

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                                        speaking of…

                                        this is how the image sensors were delivered. How does that make you feel?

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                                        • atna@eldritch.cafeA atna@eldritch.cafe

                                          @janamarie does it make alignment easier?

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                                          @atna very! 😄 a press fit always is easier 😄

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