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You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

    You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

    maggiejk@zeroes.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #49

    @beyondmachines1 this reminded me of a reddit thread I saw a couple months ago in one of the “AI is my boyfriend” type subs.

    Someone had found a way to use Amazon’s chat bot as a companion so they didn’t have to pay the tokens to chat with AI and it kinda made my day.

    I mean, I would prefer it not happen, but if someone found a way to make Bezos pay for their personal use? GOOD.

    #AI

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    • ballalloi@livellosegreto.itB ballalloi@livellosegreto.it

      @fh0

      The thing is that you will spend half a day working on something else anyway so what's the point?

      @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1

      maggiejk@zeroes.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #50

      @ballalloi @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 or lose a half day of pay because there’s nothing to do. Is AI going to spend that token $ in the community or will it be hoarded in off shore accounts benefiting no one but our wealthy overlords?

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      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

        @beyondmachines1

        please review "Gartner Hype Cycle" and then revise this post to conform to reality

        thanks

        davecb@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #51

        @failedLyndonLaRouchite @beyondmachines1
        Probably relevant to that question:
        https://leaflessca.wordpress.com/2026/05/31/torches-and-pitchforks/

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        • iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloudI iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloud

          @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 and finding that bug is worth all the fucking misery that it brings? I'm so fed up with this argument, things don't exist in a void and magnitude matters. Please, use your brains and stop embarrassing yourselves before you use that goddamn argument again. Please.

          davecb@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #52

          @iakobsdesamos @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1
          LLMs understand language. Telling me
          - what the computer said is contradictory, or
          - what I said is ungrammatical
          is genuinely helpful. The other stuff? Not so much.

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          • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

            You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

            falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #53

            @beyondmachines1 lol well yes. nothing new, hidden, or unknown there. that has always been the deal from the very beginning.

            what blows my mind is that there really are walking, talking, bumbling, fumbling, gibbering, quivering idiots on this planet who were presented that deal and said "yes please!" to it 🤣🤣🤌

            it defies belief the depths that people will sink to just to fuck themselves over with somebody else's equipment.

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            • josh0@babka.socialJ josh0@babka.social

              @beyondmachines1 my brain somehow skipped the words ‘in the game’ which made this much creepier, though no less accurate. 💀

              falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #54

              @josh0 😂😂

              well zuckerberg technically does wear skin, it's just not his nor in the game.

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              • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                kookie@chaosfem.twK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #55

                @beyondmachines1 If only they had hired people to tell them this 2 years ago 🤣

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                • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                  You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                  terminhell@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #56

                  @beyondmachines1 Is the tech useful in some places/needs. Yes of course. Is it the hype it's been sold as? Not even close. I don't think we'll achieve AGI until new forms of power production come along that can scale with this.

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                  • nachtet@norden.socialN nachtet@norden.social

                    @beyondmachines1 The costs are higher?? What was the advantage again? 🤔

                    falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #57

                    @nachtet @beyondmachines1 the "advantage" that captures them, as I understand it, is their desperate, manic clutching for the feeling of attaining "special boy" social status by participating in popular fads. the desire to feel those "special boy" feelings blinded them to reason as it always has, does, and will do. because the underdeveloped, naive, privilege-fucked manchildren in question live for social status.

                    wonder if they might be rehabilitated via the same mechanism? maybe not 😂

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                    • nachtet@norden.socialN nachtet@norden.social

                      @beyondmachines1 The costs are higher?? What was the advantage again? 🤔

                      starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #58

                      @nachtet @beyondmachines1 See my comment here: https://myside-yourside.net/@StarkRG/116662678562271725

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                      • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                        You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                        #59

                        @beyondmachines1 Satan is sitting, meanwhile, on his throne in hell cursing every demon in thrall to him because they didn't come up with this plan first.

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                        • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                          You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                          foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #60

                          @beyondmachines1 Marx said that class struggle ends with the victory of the rising class, or the mutual ruin of the contending classes.

                          There is a third possible outcome: the ruling class succeeds in defeating the producing class, not understanding that the entire system was based on the ruling class wrecking things and the producing class repairing the damage and improving things in the process.

                          With the producing class defeated, the wrecking accelerates.

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                          • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                            You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                            sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #61

                            @beyondmachines1
                            The purpose given to ai was to disrupt society, in a kind of 'Tabula Rasa', that would leave only a handful of men (and their servants) alive.

                            Until all the women are dead.

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                            • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                              You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                              ptr_k@dice.campP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #62

                              @beyondmachines1
                              Maybe my brain is just focused on body horror today, but I think I'm going to have this unintended phrase in the back of my mind every time LLMs come up.

                              #LLMs #AI

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                              • elhadjimurad@beige.partyE elhadjimurad@beige.party

                                @chantaryu2 @beyondmachines1 They definitely turned it on for the reason that guy said - get people using it, screw everyone later. Atlassian was once the cheeky outsider and is now as bad as all the rest, imo. Like, in August they are going to start scraping their customers' data for AI training. They promised they wouldn't, but now they are. You can maybe opt out of some of it, but it depends on which version $$$ you're using. Enshittification at its finest.

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                                @ElHadjiMurad @beyondmachines1 I wasn't giving kudos to Atlassian. Just pointing out that in some companies, there are still people with critical thinking who won't suck up to any random shit because it has AI in the name. This incident also made me aware of Jira automation and I am pretty happy about that.

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                                • nachtet@norden.socialN nachtet@norden.social

                                  @beyondmachines1 The costs are higher?? What was the advantage again? 🤔

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                                  #64

                                  The advantage is that the machine always tells you that you are brilliant.
                                  @nachtet @beyondmachines1

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                                  • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                                    @fightscore @beyondmachines1 Real AI sure, but the stochastic parrot LLMs not so much. I used to call them "machine lying" but lying requires knowledge of true and false and LLMs do not have that.

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                                    @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 LLMs do have an economic use, it’s just the use they’re good for is a societal negative: they’re really, really good for the spam industry and for fraudsters. No coincidence many of the companies pushing them are effectively advertising companies.

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                                    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                      @beyondmachines1 "Los directores ejecutivos se están dando cuenta, en silencio, de que el plan de sustitución por IA tiene un problema.

                                      Dos problemas, en realidad.

                                      Uno: los costos de los tokens necesarios para ejecutar los agentes de IA ahora superan lo que pagaban a los empleados que despidieron.

                                      Dos: cuando se agotan los tokens, la IA se detiene. Simplemente se detiene. Sin continuidad. Sin solución alternativa. Solo un ícono girando donde antes estaba tu plantilla.
                                      Despediste a personas para ahorrar dinero y compraste una suscripción que te deja acorralado.

                                      Los empleados a los que despidiste sabían qué hacer cuando las cosas fallaban. La IA simplemente te cobra por la interrupción del servicio.

                                      Y luego está el problema de los permisos del que nadie quiere hablar. Para hacer su trabajo, el agente de IA necesita acceso. Acceso total. Tus sistemas, tus patentes, tus contratos, tus planes futuros. Todo lo que pasaste años construyendo, entregado a un proceso que no tiene lealtad, ni discreción, ni nada que perder.

                                      No contrataste a un sustituto.
                                      Le diste a un extraño sin alma las llaves de todo lo que posees."

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                                      • chantaryu2@pataterie.caC chantaryu2@pataterie.ca

                                        @ElHadjiMurad @beyondmachines1 I wasn't giving kudos to Atlassian. Just pointing out that in some companies, there are still people with critical thinking who won't suck up to any random shit because it has AI in the name. This incident also made me aware of Jira automation and I am pretty happy about that.

                                        elhadjimurad@beige.partyE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @chantaryu2 @beyondmachines1 Oups - sorry - I didn't intend the reply to be critical of you - I reworded it a bit.

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                                        • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                          You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                          @beyondmachines1 CEOs want to operate in states where they can terminate an employee without any prior notice. They tell us my country is doomed because here it's at least a 30 days period. CEOs are also signing prepaid two year AI contracts. I'm having a hard time understanding anything anymore.

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