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  3. meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    @zzt if I were a problem I would simply halt

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    @jwz
    Stop —

    — Hammer time

    @zzt

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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      @zzt

      It might have been a joke.

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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        @zzt remember that this is literally the solution the Ethereum Virtual Machine uses, your badly coded function runs out of money

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

          robinsyl@meow.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @zzt The solution to the grandfather paradox is "just don't do that"

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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            #12

            @zzt @davidgerard

            This is the community of utter twonks that the head of platform at Ubuntu asked "what do you want to see in Ubuntu $NEXT?"

            Link Preview Image
            Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10? | Hacker News

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            (news.ycombinator.com)

            The result was killing Unity, the end of the phones and tablets, returning to GNOME, and a legion of other epic mistakes.

            Absolute complete suicidal fool, asking this maelstrom of toxic nerd masculinity for _guidance_.

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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              @zzt I mean, I can easily solve the halting problem in any algorithm on any computer. Give me a hammer and I'll make sure it halts.

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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                #14

                @zzt I am very happy I don't visit that site anymore, but sad I miss out on such computer science breakthroughs 😔

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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                  @zzt this doesn't work unless one can pre-determine all states of a program and required runtime.

                  • If your program/task is simple enough for that, watchdog functionality is easy to support.
                    • If not (which is the case with anything not hard-realtime capable!) then that doesn't succeed…

                  Also HackerNews/Ycombinator is just gsrbage…

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    @zzt remember that this is literally the solution the Ethereum Virtual Machine uses, your badly coded function runs out of money

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                    #16

                    @davidgerard @zzt Eeyupp, also with #Solana.

                    • One can literally burn through tons of shitcoins just because one's validator isn't able to saturate it's 10G-NIC and destroy it's NVMe's with IOPS at the same time.
                      • And no, I'm not joking: #CryptoBros are still a problem, they judt habe less $$$$$$$$ than the #AIbros!
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                    • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                      @zzt this doesn't work unless one can pre-determine all states of a program and required runtime.

                      • If your program/task is simple enough for that, watchdog functionality is easy to support.
                        • If not (which is the case with anything not hard-realtime capable!) then that doesn't succeed…

                      Also HackerNews/Ycombinator is just gsrbage…

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                      #17

                      @kkarhan @zzt Set up a skyscraper-sized antimatter bomb to go off after, say, 100 instructions. Then you know for a fact that the program will always terminate once it's processed 100 instructions.

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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                        #18
                        "I will respond to my inability to decide something by changing the rules, deciding a different thing, pretending that I've decided the original thing, and rallying a bunch of people to pretend with me" sums up a lot of modern dysfunction, seems to me.
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                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                          meditating on when I was still reading hacker news and somebody posted “the solution to the halting problem is to simply terminate execution after a while” and it was extremely upvoted and I realized these were not my people

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                          @zzt oh dear, I literally spent the first 15s after reading this wondering «  but what if the while never finishes - you never get to the terminate ». Which in a funny way is exactly the problem.

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