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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

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  • fuzz_ra@kind.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    fuzz_ra@kind.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    fuzz_ra@kind.social
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    #93

    @ninafelwitch @verge

    IRC and a small forum work pretty well, too. I mean, chatting alongside a stream is IRC in a trench coat.

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    • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

      Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

      bmebenji@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #94

      @verge It’s a shame that #Discord is going away. Oh well. I haven’t really been using it anyway

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      • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

        @PandaCab

        Somewhere I typed up a list of my requirements (I can't speak for everyone); I'll have to dig that up..

        Revolt does actually meet them all, afaict; the only obstacles are logistical/strategic.

        I'm familiar(ish) with RocketChat and Mattermost, but was underwhelmed; I'll have to investigate the other two (thanks for the leads!).

        @feorag @netskaven @verge

        woozle@toot.catW This user is from outside of this forum
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        @PandaCab @feorag @netskaven @verge

        Pumble looks to be proprietary, which is an immediate disqualifier.

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        • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

          @PandaCab @feorag @netskaven @verge

          Pumble looks to be proprietary, which is an immediate disqualifier.

          woozle@toot.catW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @PandaCab @feorag @netskaven @verge

          ...and Guilded is no longer available (which shows one compelling reason why proprietary software is not an option).

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          • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

            Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

            strawhousepig@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #97

            @verge What is "full access"?

            Shouldn't there be an age cap there instead? Like no one over 16?

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            • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

              @verge never understood why people use this garbage tier service. I used it for a brief spell some years ago - absolutely hated everything about it. Hard to find info - crap organization, lame monetizing scheme. Total trash. This should be the needle that breaks the camels back for many.

              starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #98

              @sayonaraminasan @verge It's been fine as a modern alternative to IRC with voice and video chat. Not amazing, but fine. It is absolutely *awful* for distribution of information and I do not understand why anyone would use it for that.

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              • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                @sayonaraminasan @verge It's been fine as a modern alternative to IRC with voice and video chat. Not amazing, but fine. It is absolutely *awful* for distribution of information and I do not understand why anyone would use it for that.

                sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #99

                @StarkRG discords garbage. Has been the whole time. Performs like shit, organized like shit, shit tier slop that’s now forcing users to upload their 🆔 it’s gonna burn.

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                • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

                  @StarkRG discords garbage. Has been the whole time. Performs like shit, organized like shit, shit tier slop that’s now forcing users to upload their 🆔 it’s gonna burn.

                  starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #100

                  @sayonaraminasan Yeah, that definitely hasn't been my experience. It's worked better than zoom, for example, and has been more friendly than Facebook (which, I realise, isn't saying much, but it's a benchmark anyway). It's worked well enough that I didn't look for an alternative until about a year ago.

                  I'm not sure what you mean by being organised like shit, it's organised like a chat program. It's better than IRC in many ways, which is kind of the metric to measure chat programs against.

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                  • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                    @sayonaraminasan Yeah, that definitely hasn't been my experience. It's worked better than zoom, for example, and has been more friendly than Facebook (which, I realise, isn't saying much, but it's a benchmark anyway). It's worked well enough that I didn't look for an alternative until about a year ago.

                    I'm not sure what you mean by being organised like shit, it's organised like a chat program. It's better than IRC in many ways, which is kind of the metric to measure chat programs against.

                    sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #101

                    @StarkRG don’t know what you’re trying to prove here, that discord isn’t a privacy violating shit box? Cuz that’s not a cookie you’re gonna sell me, bro lol it’s garbage which is why I don’t use it. Happy you enjoyed the trash tho.

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                    • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

                      @StarkRG don’t know what you’re trying to prove here, that discord isn’t a privacy violating shit box? Cuz that’s not a cookie you’re gonna sell me, bro lol it’s garbage which is why I don’t use it. Happy you enjoyed the trash tho.

                      starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #102

                      @sayonaraminasan I'm not trying to prove anything and there's no reason for you to be so aggressively defensive. Nobody's attacking you and there's nothing you need to prove to anyone. I've merely had a different experience from you, at least not until the last couple of years. That said, I agree that recently it's been awful.

                      I still don't know what you mean by being organised poorly, though. How should a chat program be organised that is different from what discord has done?

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                      • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                        @sayonaraminasan I'm not trying to prove anything and there's no reason for you to be so aggressively defensive. Nobody's attacking you and there's nothing you need to prove to anyone. I've merely had a different experience from you, at least not until the last couple of years. That said, I agree that recently it's been awful.

                        I still don't know what you mean by being organised poorly, though. How should a chat program be organised that is different from what discord has done?

                        sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #103

                        @StarkRG don't know and don't care lol. I am not a software developer.

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                        • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

                          @StarkRG don't know and don't care lol. I am not a software developer.

                          starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #104

                          @sayonaraminasan You don't know why you said the thing you said? And you must care, as it's a complaint you made, it doesn't make any sense for you to have said it and not care.

                          Am I done with what? You said a thing, I asked for clarification, describing my own experience for context, and you seem to have taken that personally somehow. Again, you don't need to be aggressive to communicate, you're not under attack, this is just a conversation.

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                          • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                            @sayonaraminasan You don't know why you said the thing you said? And you must care, as it's a complaint you made, it doesn't make any sense for you to have said it and not care.

                            Am I done with what? You said a thing, I asked for clarification, describing my own experience for context, and you seem to have taken that personally somehow. Again, you don't need to be aggressive to communicate, you're not under attack, this is just a conversation.

                            sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #105

                            @StarkRG I think I have entertained you enough. Good day. Another reply results in a block my good sir 🙂

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                            • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                              Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

                              contratopdev@iris.aeris.synology.meC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @verge habrá que pasarse a otras plataformas...

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                              • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                                Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

                                baudio1@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #107

                                @verge Ciao, Discord

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                                • gerenuk@c.imG gerenuk@c.im

                                  @verge what exactly is the problem with this feature? How I understand, discord ist still accessible without any ID check, only adult content will be locked behind a verification wall, which isn’t something bad I think. Other platforms like reddit should do so as well, just asking for age isn’t really a working strategy

                                  project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #108

                                  @gerenuk @verge

                                  The same people who push for this will push or already have for anything queer to be considered "adult", for example.

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                                  • strawhousepig@mastodon.socialS strawhousepig@mastodon.social

                                    @verge What is "full access"?

                                    Shouldn't there be an age cap there instead? Like no one over 16?

                                    project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #109

                                    @strawhousepig @verge

                                    F queer and neurodivergent kids then I guess. Or those abused at home.

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                                    • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                      @strawhousepig @verge

                                      F queer and neurodivergent kids then I guess. Or those abused at home.

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                                      #110

                                      @project1enigma Don't forget to warm up before you stretch like that.

                                      Sure, it may not be quite the smorgasbord for creeps that Roblox is, but you're fooling yourself if you think it ain't loaded with them. If you're going to ID people it should be to keep the adults out.

                                      Though admittedly that is simply idealistic.

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                                      • verge@mastodon.socialV verge@mastodon.social

                                        Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

                                        the_moep@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #111

                                        @verge In a month? They have already started rolling this shit out...

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                                        • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                                          @feorag Yes, and the dearth of easy choices for alternatives is also a problem.

                                          There's Revolt, which is pretty darn close (but do you want to tie your community to yet another 3rd party server or else figure out how to self-host, which does not appear easy), and there's Matrix (which is not exactly a drop-in replacement but can give a similar experience if appropriately configured, and that's not easy either)...

                                          @netskaven @verge

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                                          @woozle @feorag @netskaven @verge
                                          Another issue is that it's not "Revolt" anymore, apparently the name was to revolting and they renamed to "Stoat".

                                          But it's still not end-to-end encrypted and still cannot federate so Matrix is pretty much the only valid alternative which can actually solve the shortcomings that cause the current Discord situation.

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