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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Yeah

    A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

    πŸ‚πŸ’©

    And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

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    Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

    If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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    Jon Worth (jonworth.eu)

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    @jon "Neom-informed Loop" 🀣

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    • trantion@masto.aiT trantion@masto.ai

      @jon I like how they don't even consider that railways should connect with other railways. But my favourite detail might be the render showing the viewing platform for the scenic coastline, with the massive concrete viaduct placed exactly at eye level to block as much of the view as possible.

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      @jon Oh, and "it'll be cheaper than HS2 if we build a viaduct all the way" sounds a lot like "maglev will be cheaper if we put it in a vacuum tube"

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Yeah

        A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

        πŸ‚πŸ’©

        And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

        Link Preview Image
        Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

        If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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        @jon TIL there was a long history of tunnel projets between Ireland and Great Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_British_Isles_fixed_sea_link_connections#Proposed_fixed_sea_links_between_Great_Britain_and_Ireland

        (… and a 2018 idea by boris johnson of a **bridge** betwean France and Great Britain)

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        • _nb@mamot.fr_ _nb@mamot.fr

          @jon TIL there was a long history of tunnel projets between Ireland and Great Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_British_Isles_fixed_sea_link_connections#Proposed_fixed_sea_links_between_Great_Britain_and_Ireland

          (… and a 2018 idea by boris johnson of a **bridge** betwean France and Great Britain)

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          @_nb Yes I am aware. I even made an April Fools joke about it!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Yeah

            A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

            πŸ‚πŸ’©

            And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

            Link Preview Image
            Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

            If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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            Jon Worth (jonworth.eu)

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            @jon Is it more practical (to build, if not to use) if the trains are half the height of a person and the whole thing's made of Lego? Because that's what his pretty pictures seem to show.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Yeah

              A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

              πŸ‚πŸ’©

              And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

              Link Preview Image
              Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

              If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

              favicon

              Jon Worth (jonworth.eu)

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              @jon he is quoted in Architects Journal as saying, "Maybe I have been too influenced by the Line."

              Quite. 🀑

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Yeah

                A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

                πŸ‚πŸ’©

                And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

                Link Preview Image
                Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

                If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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                Jon Worth (jonworth.eu)

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                @jon Wow, I’ve crayoned ridiculous pie-in-the-sky proposals that make more sense than this.

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Yeah

                  A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

                  πŸ‚πŸ’©

                  And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

                  Link Preview Image
                  Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

                  If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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                  Jon Worth (jonworth.eu)

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                  @jon I like how the loop, rather than going at the narrowest point of the North Channel, instead takes a trip to Arran for the lolz.

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                  • thias@mastodon.socialT thias@mastodon.social

                    @jon So two tunnels longer than the channel, to connect to a island with 1/12 of the population of France alone?

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                    @thias @jon
                    1/9th or 1/10th? 5.5m is the population of the state called Ireland, not the island called Ireland.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Also this stupid thing reminds me of a 2021 1st April joke I made... laughing at Boris Johnson

                      But it is not 1st April!

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                      @jon A perfect send-up of both. πŸŽ―πŸŽ―πŸ‘

                      I enjoyed it so much I read it twice.

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                      • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                        @jon A perfect send-up of both. πŸŽ―πŸŽ―πŸ‘

                        I enjoyed it so much I read it twice.

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                        @samueljohnson Also I had forgotten Arc Uri Ltd providing services to Boris Johnson.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Yeah

                          A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

                          πŸ‚πŸ’©

                          And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

                          Link Preview Image
                          Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

                          If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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                          @jon The Irish Sea is clearly the issue here. Let's learn from the Dutch, put some dams across the St George's & North Channels, pump out the water and bingo, problem solved. This even gives the Isle of Man a nice hilltop location from where to waive at the bypassing trains.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            @samueljohnson Also I had forgotten Arc Uri Ltd providing services to Boris Johnson.

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                            @jon I confess I corresponded with the CEO of said enterprise via Twitter. Gondolas on fire off the shoulder of the Isle of Man... Moments lost in time like tears in the rain - - I deleted everything (had to do it twice, they restored it all). She was v much unamused by her former client.

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Yeah

                              A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

                              πŸ‚πŸ’©

                              And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

                              Link Preview Image
                              Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

                              If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

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                              @jon That northern crossing reminds me of an old what-if idea:
                              What if there was an island SW of the Mull of Kintyre? i.e. so that even the Victorians would at least do serious plans for bridging the gaps.
                              Then there'd be a connection in the present day - put it'd be *VERY* inconvenient for almost all trips. Freight? sure. Scotland - Ireland, sure. But Liverpool - Dublin? nope.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Yeah

                                A loop railway line connecting British and Irish cities

                                πŸ‚πŸ’©

                                And to think Chris Williamson is apparently serious, normally

                                Link Preview Image
                                Loop line to connnect British and Irish cities

                                If we had any doubt about the UK's lack of coherent high speed rail planning, the country has been unable to connect its existing high speed railway line HS1 to the new HS2 line it is building. But now along comes Chris Williamson (who is President of RIBA, so ought

                                favicon

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                                @jon i don't think it's fair to call RIBA serious

                                the anglosphere has the worst construction costs in the rich world and they've done nothing to stop it

                                this kind of rubbish is very on-brand

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                                • tops@im-in.spaceT tops@im-in.space

                                  @jon he is quoted in Architects Journal as saying, "Maybe I have been too influenced by the Line."

                                  Quite. 🀑

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                                  @tops suspect a generous editor has capitalised that and misunderstood the kind of lines he was influenced by

                                  @jon

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                                  • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

                                    @tops suspect a generous editor has capitalised that and misunderstood the kind of lines he was influenced by

                                    @jon

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                                    @bovine3dom you're right, it's a pull-quote. I believe it represents the spirit of what he said, though - the full text is, "Maybe I have been too influenced by the scale, the vision and the ambition of NEOM the Line in Saudi Arabia, having worked on the high-speed stations running alongside the 170km city for the last few years."

                                    https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/riba-president-proposes-giant-loop-city-spanning-britain-and-ireland

                                    @jon

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                                    • tops@im-in.spaceT tops@im-in.space

                                      @bovine3dom you're right, it's a pull-quote. I believe it represents the spirit of what he said, though - the full text is, "Maybe I have been too influenced by the scale, the vision and the ambition of NEOM the Line in Saudi Arabia, having worked on the high-speed stations running alongside the 170km city for the last few years."

                                      https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/riba-president-proposes-giant-loop-city-spanning-britain-and-ireland

                                      @jon

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                                      @tops sorry, i was being mischievous and making a joke about cocaine...

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                                      • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

                                        @tops sorry, i was being mischievous and making a joke about cocaine...

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                                        @bovine3dom ahhhh! 🀦🏻

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