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Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

    martenbjorklund@mastodon.nuM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @randahl To be fair, wind turbines doesn't work when the winds are blowing too hard either.

    They need "goldilocks-winds" 🙂

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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      @randahl While the wind is still blowing in Danmark and the Netherlands

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

        ilka4you@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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        @randahl 💯 best statement in the whole world for the past 13 months.

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        • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

          @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

          The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

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          @chris @randahl

          Oil and natural gas provide feed stocks for much more than just diesel and petrol.

          sour crude extracted in the region is a primary source of sulfur. sulfur is a feed stock for sulfuric acid. Sulfuric acid is a chemical that’s used to extract and refine copper, nickel, cobalt, and lithium. Oil is an input to a lot of products.

          Natural gas and sulfur are also feed stocks for fertilizer.

          The global supply chain is the risk

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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            @randahl and most of those suffering for it are not those people.

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            • zoufalec@mastodonczech.czZ zoufalec@mastodonczech.cz

              @randahl @jachym That is, of course, nonsense and a lie. Cars continue to drive, planes continue to fly, plastics continue to be produced...and donkeys continue to bray.

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              @Zoufalec @randahl @jachym Is that why the EU and the US have begun using their emergency reserves, because it’s not an emergency?

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                @randahl The real problem is that wind turbines are not a substitute for fossil energy.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                  @randahl this should serve as major awakening

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                    @randahl

                    Spot on!

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                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                      @chris @randahl

                      Oil and natural gas provide feed stocks for much more than just diesel and petrol.

                      sour crude extracted in the region is a primary source of sulfur. sulfur is a feed stock for sulfuric acid. Sulfuric acid is a chemical that’s used to extract and refine copper, nickel, cobalt, and lithium. Oil is an input to a lot of products.

                      Natural gas and sulfur are also feed stocks for fertilizer.

                      The global supply chain is the risk

                      pvollebr@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @chris @randahl Exactly why it is so stupid to burn oil.

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                      • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

                        @tootbrute @randahl

                        That's just crazy. Why, you would need some sort of super fusion reactor safely placed about 90 million miles away for that.

                        Oh.

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                        @pseudonym @tootbrute @randahl No, no, that wouldn't work. You'd have to do wireless power transmission. You'd only get a tiny, tiny fraction of the produced power. Completely impractical.

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                        • pvollebr@mstdn.socialP pvollebr@mstdn.social

                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @chris @randahl Exactly why it is so stupid to burn oil.

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                          @pvollebr @chris @randahl

                          Well, yes, no. It is stupid to burn a resource like this, but the stupidity comes from building an economy in this case of global supply chain that exists by eating the planet. It’s built on destroying some other part of the world for the benefit of a tiny few people.

                          The other way to look at it is that it is a particular choice of economic pathway which temporarily can benefit people, but it is designed to consume the planet and people

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                          • sharif@fosstodon.orgS sharif@fosstodon.org

                            @pseudonym @tootbrute @randahl No, no, that wouldn't work. You'd have to do wireless power transmission. You'd only get a tiny, tiny fraction of the produced power. Completely impractical.

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                            @sharif @pseudonym @tootbrute @randahl

                            What if … we gave eleventy bazillion dollars to Elon, to launch 42 million X-link satellites to completely enclose the reactor and capture all the radiated energy ? 🤔

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                              @randahl

                              Point.

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                              • isol@mastodon.auI isol@mastodon.au

                                @sharif @pseudonym @tootbrute @randahl

                                What if … we gave eleventy bazillion dollars to Elon, to launch 42 million X-link satellites to completely enclose the reactor and capture all the radiated energy ? 🤔

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                                @isol @pseudonym @tootbrute @randahl Sounds like a roll of the dice, unless they're AI-controlled.

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                    @randahl It's a shame that in 2026 an old man attacked two countries for oil related reasons.

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                                    • martenbjorklund@mastodon.nuM martenbjorklund@mastodon.nu

                                      @randahl To be fair, wind turbines doesn't work when the winds are blowing too hard either.

                                      They need "goldilocks-winds" 🙂

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                                      @martenbjorklund @randahl not really. They need anything from a light wind to just below hurricane. And when the wind isn't blowing, there's often sun, and when there's neither, grid-scale batteries are viable and cheap nowadays. (And that's not to include the parts of the world where thermal or hydroelectric or hydro storage or tidal generation is possible.)

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                                      • G globob@thecanadian.social

                                        @randahl The real problem is that wind turbines are not a substitute for fossil energy.

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                                        @Globob @randahl sorry, yes it is.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                          @randahl Also wind turbines don't sink/catch on fire and cause mass environmental damage

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