Your phone is about to stop being yours.

[janvlug@mastodon.social]

@lproven Better switch to #MobileLinux.

[float13@masto.hackers.town]

@lproven

Will Graphene still be an option?

[joshg@mathstodon.xyz]

@AAKL @aburka @lproven Is GrapheneOS still going to function? https://grapheneos.org/

[joelbarr@mastodon.online]

@lproven good luck finding a carrier that supports something other than Apple or Android

[photo55@mastodon.social]

@lproven mobile-service-optimised-webservers anyone?

I prefer running most things with apps on an alternative web-browser interface if they present one. Car is an exception.

[lopta@mastodon.social]

@lproven It would be nice if (non-Android) Linux phones were an option.

[falcennial@mastodon.social]

@lproven holy crap! fuck google

[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]

You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

@joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

@GrapheneOS

#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]

All of us seem to have forgotten, and I'm pointing the finger at myself, that the cloud is just somebody else's computer

It turns out that even when you buy Hardware with features companies have the balls, to take them away with impunity.

@AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification #enshittification

[praetor@mstdn.social]

@lproven That depends. I've started doing Apple development, and at first it's like "why do you want $99"? But you get a lot for the $99 as a developer. They take care of all the regulatory crap and the taxes. By the time you pay an account to do all that, it pays for itself. They have business support. I've found its actually well worth it.

[fxiz@mastodon.social]

@lproven does it mean if I build an app on .net and push the build on my phone, it will not work? Nah. That can't be true. Ohh wait a minute. I use a ~7 year old nokia phone. Only God can send an update on it now.

[jonpsp@mstdn.social]

@lproven I think more people should write to their MP about this. Most MPs won't understand the implications, but if they get enough emails and letters on the subject they will hopefully either look into it, or maybe forward them to someone centrally in the party.

From one point of view, it's a restraint on competition - Google control both the platform (Android) and the main app store, from which they earn commission from purchases.

[jonpsp@mstdn.social]

@lproven it could also result in someone not being able to use their apps if the US Government applies sanctions to them, then the US Play Store will be unavailable to them.

[rcosta@archaeo.social]

@janvlug @lproven Something along those lines We are not in 1999 anymore. If our smartphones are now so powerful as laptop computers why we still use them with training wheels OS versions? I want a smartphone with a full Linux OS and modular electronics that make possible to easily upgrade/repair it. I'm no computer/electronic expert, only tired of greedy people and waste of resources and pretty sure I'm not alone.

[roastbeefhashtag@mastodon.social]

@lproven I'm still waiting to hear if all of my existing apps are going to stop working. Even my launcher is FOSS and not in the Play Store.

[palaress@mastodon.online]

@Radio_Azureus

You can look if lineage OS is supported for your device [here](https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/). Lots of low end and old devices are supported.

A step futher would be to get [lineage OS with microG](https://download.lineage.microg.org/) embedded into it. MicroG are apps that "implement" core google features like Play Services so most apps still function.

[klep@anarchism.space]

@float13 @lproven

I mean, I sure as fuck hope so, otherwise nobody will be able to reach me. I'm not going back to Android or Apple. Fuck that noise,
I'll be fine without a phone.

[radio_azureus@ioc.exchange]

The Motorola phone I'm currently dictating this toot in, has cost me about 20 USD
I had to buy it as a replacement for one of my G2 GSMs, which means it's memory is extremely Limited.
However I can still do some simple things like working on the FediVerse.
In my country both GSM network providers stopped with / shut down the G2 networks with just 3 days notice, leaving us stranded with useless G2 GSM phones. I still have to replace six G2 GSM devices.

We just cannot afford phones on Android price levels when we only need to replace G2 GSM devices

@AAKL @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

#GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@rl_dane @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @lproven I'm still unclear on whether Google's upcoming lockdown will affect alternative ROMs, or whether they will be closing even more of the source code to prevent people getting around it

[bencurthoys@mastodon.social]

@lproven we need effective anti-monopoly action from governments.

You can own an operating system or an app store, not both.

You can be a TV production company or a streaming platform, not both.

You can be an advert broker or a content provider, not both.

Forced unbundling now.