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Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.

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  • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

    @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?

    EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.

    EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.

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    @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform @disorderlyf Hahahaha this is the shit you read about, but truly can't imagine someone stupid enough to do it.

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    • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

      @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?

      EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.

      EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.

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      @disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform

      Backstrap, the back part of the grip. I'm pretty sure you have to remove the slide to do it. Not... really sure why'd you be messing with that "in the field", but I guess we're already failing basic gun safety, so I doubt they should really be trusted with a fork much less a gun

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      • jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.com

        @deviantollam @Retreival9096

        It's a shame that there's no concept that maybe arms should be collected into a safe location for storage when not in service.

        Granted, that would make it hard to masturbate, so I guess that's out.

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        @deviantollam @Retreival9096 @jrconlin not only a mechanism, but the concept of...caution? Some sort of training perhaps to reduce such negligence?

        Ugh, it's so unfortunate that this is so new of a problem! We couldn't have possibly stopped this.

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        • theredlongitude@mastodon.gamedev.placeT theredlongitude@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform

          Backstrap, the back part of the grip. I'm pretty sure you have to remove the slide to do it. Not... really sure why'd you be messing with that "in the field", but I guess we're already failing basic gun safety, so I doubt they should really be trusted with a fork much less a gun

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          @theredlongitude @disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform depends on model but I’ve got a few that don’t. It’s a roll pin at the bottom and it fits into a grove at the top right before the thumbs well. I wouldn’t do it loaded anyway, you have to put a few good hits in the pin to move it. S&W99 and its Walther cousin were like that.

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          • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

            Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.

            Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...

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            Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel

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            ...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.

            This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.

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            @deviantollam

            And best it's negligent discharge, has anyone checked for blood splatter?

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            • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

              @deviantollam

              And best it's negligent discharge, has anyone checked for blood splatter?

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              @kevinrns local PD came and investigated and verified that the room into which the round was discharged was unoccupied at the time.

              Although, it was a near miss... Someone had been assigned that room by the front desk and was actually in the hallway proceeding towards the room when the agent fired his weapon.

              The other hotel guest heard the shot and thought some piece of equipment had experienced a catastrophic failure in a wall or something.

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              • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.

                Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...

                Link Preview Image
                Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel

                MuckRock is a collaborative news site that gives you the tools to hold the government accountable.

                favicon

                MuckRock (www.muckrock.com)

                ...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.

                This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.

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                @deviantollam What a shithole

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                • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                  @RichSPK They responded to a community member's FOIA request. (And repeated FOIA pinging, it would seem)

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                  @deviantollam yeah, I saw that. I think my local PD, and certainly the White House, would have drawn out a FOIA request much longer.

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                  • richspk@tech.lgbtR richspk@tech.lgbt

                    @deviantollam yeah, I saw that. I think my local PD, and certainly the White House, would have drawn out a FOIA request much longer.

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                    @RichSPK ah yes I hear you there

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                    • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                      @kevinrns local PD came and investigated and verified that the room into which the round was discharged was unoccupied at the time.

                      Although, it was a near miss... Someone had been assigned that room by the front desk and was actually in the hallway proceeding towards the room when the agent fired his weapon.

                      The other hotel guest heard the shot and thought some piece of equipment had experienced a catastrophic failure in a wall or something.

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                      @deviantollam

                      Thanks for this

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                      • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                        @kevinrns local PD came and investigated and verified that the room into which the round was discharged was unoccupied at the time.

                        Although, it was a near miss... Someone had been assigned that room by the front desk and was actually in the hallway proceeding towards the room when the agent fired his weapon.

                        The other hotel guest heard the shot and thought some piece of equipment had experienced a catastrophic failure in a wall or something.

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                        @deviantollam @kevinrns Absolutely bonkers. Is this going to be another 10 year ICE veteran who is also a firearms instructor? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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                        • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

                          @deviantollam @kevinrns Absolutely bonkers. Is this going to be another 10 year ICE veteran who is also a firearms instructor? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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                          @kevinrns @lerxst I believe that reports are he was a 30-year veteran of some sort of federal law enforcement I think. He then came out of retirement to work for ICE on this assignment.

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                          • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                            @deviantollam I think I'll invent a switch on a gun that prevents it from going off, to help prevent this kind of thing

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                            @deviantollam @Retreival9096

                            As its very likely a #Glock, it does not have a traditional safety switch that most traditional firearm have.

                            It has THREE safeties.

                            Now a SAFETY, will prevent
                            an 👉ACCIDENTAL👈 discharge.

                            The three (3) safeties will, however not
                            prevent a 👉NEGLIGENT👈 discharge.

                            But because the two #ICE muppets are struggling
                            (Adam Autio, Bradley Shaver, remember their names), calling this an ACCIDENTAL discharge allows them to save face.

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                            • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                              The police report is a hoot though... "On 12/18/2025 at approximately 1927 hours, I, Officer Wayde Anderson #194, and other officers were dispatched to the Hampton Inn located at 3000 Eagandale Place in the city of Eagan for a weapons call. Dispatch notes indicated that federal agents were staying in room 322, and an agent's firearm had been fired in the room. I arrived and made contact with the federal agent in question whom I identified as Bradley Shaver. Bradley wasn't injured; however, I observed a hole in his sweatshirt that I later learned was caused by the fired 9mm round."

                              "Bradley's supervisor, Adam Autio, was contacted and informed of the incident. The firearm, as well as two magazines, 28 unfired 9mm rounds, the "backstrap", the fired casing, and fabric from Bradley's clothing were entered into evidence for safekeeping. Adam informed officers he would be picking up the firearm for processing."

                              This part is wild...

                              "As he was doing this, he heard a very loud bang. Initially he thought the gunshot came from somewhere else and he yelled 'shots fired!' and then told his wife he had to go and hung up. Shaver then felt heat on the left side of his body, looked down and saw the damage to his shirt and realized the shot had some from his own weapon."

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                              @deviantollam The full report is terrifying and ridiculous at the same time. I initially assumed that the officer just neglected to clear the chamber before working on his weapon. Which would have been bad. But he diligently explains how the way he was holding the gun induced a malfunction preventing chambering the next round. That means he had a full magazine in the gun while working on it, pointing it at himself. WTAF?!

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                              • retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR retreival9096@hachyderm.io

                                @deviantollam I think I'll invent a switch on a gun that prevents it from going off, to help prevent this kind of thing

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                                @Retreival9096 @deviantollam
                                Most modern handguns don’t have a safety because it’s considered poor practice to rely on said mechanism.

                                The problem here was entrusting a poorly trained fool with a firearm. #1 rule of firearm safety is to treat every gun as if it’s loaded and to never allow it to point to anything you don’t intend to destroy.

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                                • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

                                  @deviantollam @radleybalko
                                  Why's the left side of his shirts all yellow?

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                                  @FritzAdalis @deviantollam @radleybalko
                                  Gunpowder from the discharge.

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                                    @Spirit @ryan @deviantollam
                                    Not just a round in the chamber but a fully loaded magazine.

                                    Evidently police training is 99% “treat everyone like a terrorist” and 1% “basic safety practices and respect for civil liberties.”

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                                    • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                                      ICE are clearly hiring only the best and brightest fascist high school dropouts with anger management issues and poor dexterity.

                                      (cc @radleybalko )

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                                      @radleybalko @deviantollam Doesn't look super-fit.

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                                      • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

                                        @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform "attempted to change a part"? Was it not loaded and they didn't know what a mag is? Do they remove the slide and add before the go in? Are they talking about a sight? A surpressor?

                                        EDIT: Sorry, I hadn't read the rest of it when I posted that, so I didn't know they specified. The wording was bothering me too much to not post what I originally did, but I'm hoping this edit will dispell the misinformation I inadvertantly spread.

                                        EDIT 2: Wait, back up, this guy was messing with that WHILE THE GUN WAS LOADED?! Either this guy is quite possibly the dumbest gun owner alive or this story is bullshit and his did something either more dumb or more malicious.

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                                        @disorderlyf @kimchitea @deviantollam @ligniform Says right there "an ICE agent" - how much more proof of stupidity do you even need?

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                                        • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                                          Wondering what journalists might be interested in the news story of an ICE agent negligently discharging his gun through the walls of a hotel he was staying at.

                                          Folk FOIA'd the police report and such...

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Report and BWC from Firearm Discharge in Hotel

                                          MuckRock is a collaborative news site that gives you the tools to hold the government accountable.

                                          favicon

                                          MuckRock (www.muckrock.com)

                                          ...there are some choice photos. I don't think it's been picked up by any news outlets, though.

                                          This evidence is available, but it likely needs a journalist or someone else similar who can curate it and package it up for easy public digestion.

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                                          @deviantollam Is it normal to have a loaded gun indoors? (Brit here).

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