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  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

    More Background: The Verge | SpaceX IPO is great for Elon Musk and terrible for you

    “The likelihood the shares wind up in many people’s retirement accounts means that if SpaceX fails, the people who get hit are not the wised-up early investors but basically a bunch of normal people, the ones who can least afford it."

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    The SpaceX IPO is great for Elon Musk and terrible for you

    Elon Musk is hoping you will be fooled by his repeated invocation of Mars — because he wants you to finance his bad AI company.

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    #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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    @mastodonmigration

    SOP for modern IPO, seems like.

    Post-pump-and-dump era, where fleecing is now normalized.

    IPO was considered a badge of failure long ago. Then it was normalized (and actually kind of worked for claimed purposes).

    I guess we're on a continuum of evolution

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    • doug_bostrom@scicomm.xyzD doug_bostrom@scicomm.xyz

      @mastodonmigration

      SOP for modern IPO, seems like.

      Post-pump-and-dump era, where fleecing is now normalized.

      IPO was considered a badge of failure long ago. Then it was normalized (and actually kind of worked for claimed purposes).

      I guess we're on a continuum of evolution

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      @Doug_Bostrom

      This is indeed the mother of all pump and dumps, with the additional flourish that they are simply taking your money.

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        More Backgound: Patrick Boyle | SpaceX Lost $37 Billion. Now It Wants Your Pension

        For a great really deep dive that will leave you fuming...

        - YouTube

        Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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        More Background: The Danes are having none of this...

        Mastodon Migration (@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)

        Financial News: A Danish pension fund has blacklisted SpaceX, calling it grossly overvalued with catastrophic governance "...concerns echo those of far larger institutions. In May, the heads of the California Public Employees’ Retirement System, the New York City Retirement Systems, and the New York State Common Retirement Fund, which collectively manage more than $1 trillion, sent a joint letter to Musk calling SpaceX’s governance “extreme.” https://thenextweb.com/news/danish-pension-spacex-blacklist-governance-overvalued #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @Doug_Bostrom

          This is indeed the mother of all pump and dumps, with the additional flourish that they are simply taking your money.

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          @mastodonmigration

          Novel by nakidity. 🙂

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          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

            More Background: How Not to Buy SpaceX Stock (It’s Harder Than You Think)

            "If Elon Musk’s new public offering of SpaceX stock was an appealing investment, he would let investors make our own decisions about buying it. Instead, with the help of the NASDAQ stock exchange, he is sneaking it into our retirement accounts whether we want it or not."

            Just a moment...

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            Free link: https://archive.is/71GCn (thanks Molly B @mjibrower !!!)

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            #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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            @mastodonmigration (I ran into a subscriber wall, but here's a non-subscriber link: https://archive.is/71GCn)

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            • doug_bostrom@scicomm.xyzD doug_bostrom@scicomm.xyz

              @mastodonmigration

              Novel by nakidity. 🙂

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              @Doug_Bostrom

              Indeed.

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                @mastodonmigration This is truly bizarre indeed.. saw it a few days ago

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                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                  ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                  Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                  To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                  #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                  @mastodonmigration Another reason why I have always refused to buy index funds.

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                    Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                    To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                    #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                    #19

                    @mastodonmigration The USA is a blight on civilization

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                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                      More Background: How Not to Buy SpaceX Stock (It’s Harder Than You Think)

                      "If Elon Musk’s new public offering of SpaceX stock was an appealing investment, he would let investors make our own decisions about buying it. Instead, with the help of the NASDAQ stock exchange, he is sneaking it into our retirement accounts whether we want it or not."

                      Just a moment...

                      favicon

                      (cranberries.medium.com)

                      Free link: https://archive.is/71GCn (thanks Molly B @mjibrower !!!)

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                      #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                      @mastodonmigration @mjibrower

                      When you sell shit, you have to force people to buy it. It's the antithesis of capitalism's obsession with competition, in theory if not in practice.

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                      • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                        @mastodonmigration @mjibrower

                        When you sell shit, you have to force people to buy it. It's the antithesis of capitalism's obsession with competition, in theory if not in practice.

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                        @huntingdon @mjibrower

                        Good way to put it.

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                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                          ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                          Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                          To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                          #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                          @mastodonmigration Tesla is very over valued as well.
                          I'd value SpaceX at 90 billion tops this is not chump change it's half of Boeing.

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                            Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                            To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                            #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                            @mastodonmigration @Pinchy63 In Canada?

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                            • luna@mastodon.worldL luna@mastodon.world

                              @mastodonmigration Tesla is very over valued as well.
                              I'd value SpaceX at 90 billion tops this is not chump change it's half of Boeing.

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                              @Luna

                              What is interesting is that this perversion of the marketplace, that is, the forced acquisition by index funds, is what in effect artificially, and perhaps momentarily, creates the incredibly inflated valuation. To put it otherwise, the certainty that there will be a huge amount of buying, no matter how inflated the valuation, is what enables insiders to price it so high. It is a completely artificial construct.

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                              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                ACTION: Call your financial manager about SpaceX IPO ASAP

                                Background: SpaceX has filed to go public at a grossly overvalued $1.8 Trillion. The fundamentals in no way justify inclusion in index funds, BUT NASDAQ rules were CHANGED so that it will be included. As a result 401Ks and IRAs will AUTOMATICALLY buy the stock, giving this worthless company your money. It is the greatest grift of all time.

                                To Do: Contact your financial firm immediately. More below...

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                                #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                                @mastodonmigration it would be nice to have a NASDAQ -1 index... Or -8.... Something that excludes all the AI scam companies

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                                • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                                  @mastodonmigration it would be nice to have a NASDAQ -1 index... Or -8.... Something that excludes all the AI scam companies

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                                  @carstenfranke @mastodonmigration

                                  We just move some retirement money into a fund based on the S&P500 minus the top 7 or so stocks (all tech/AI shit) AND each stock is equally weighted, meaning the same number of dollars is applied to each stock in the fund. (Sorry, kinda confusing)

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                                    @carstenfranke @mastodonmigration

                                    We just move some retirement money into a fund based on the S&P500 minus the top 7 or so stocks (all tech/AI shit) AND each stock is equally weighted, meaning the same number of dollars is applied to each stock in the fund. (Sorry, kinda confusing)

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                                    @chertridge @mastodonmigration do you have the name for it? I had seen people were considering it, but had not seen an actual fund

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                                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                      More Background: The Danes are having none of this...

                                      Mastodon Migration (@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)

                                      Financial News: A Danish pension fund has blacklisted SpaceX, calling it grossly overvalued with catastrophic governance "...concerns echo those of far larger institutions. In May, the heads of the California Public Employees’ Retirement System, the New York City Retirement Systems, and the New York State Common Retirement Fund, which collectively manage more than $1 trillion, sent a joint letter to Musk calling SpaceX’s governance “extreme.” https://thenextweb.com/news/danish-pension-spacex-blacklist-governance-overvalued #SpaceX #SpaceXIPO

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                                      @mastodonmigration “Grossly overvalued with catastrophic governance” could also apply to the entire U.S. economy

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                                      • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                                        @chertridge @mastodonmigration do you have the name for it? I had seen people were considering it, but had not seen an actual fund

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                                        @carstenfranke @mastodonmigration

                                        Correction: I was blending two ideas in my head.

                                        Defiance Large Cap Ex-Mag 7 ETF is an exchange traded fund made up of the stocks in the S&P500 minus the top 7 tech stocks. It is no equally weighted. I haven't found a mutual fund structured the same way but there probably is one out there.

                                        Invesco ESG S&P500 Equal Weight ETF is an exchange traded fund with about 138 stocks from the S&P500 after application of a so called ESG filter, only letting through companies that meet someones requirements for being better regarding Environmental, Social and Governance issues. There IS a mutual fund that mirrors this ETF. Confession: we did not dive into the list of 138 stocks and we know that many companies do some serious green-washing to get a better ESG grade. But it is something.

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                                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                          @Luna

                                          What is interesting is that this perversion of the marketplace, that is, the forced acquisition by index funds, is what in effect artificially, and perhaps momentarily, creates the incredibly inflated valuation. To put it otherwise, the certainty that there will be a huge amount of buying, no matter how inflated the valuation, is what enables insiders to price it so high. It is a completely artificial construct.

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                                          #30

                                          @mastodonmigration It's been going on for a while with app companys with no profit being valued in the billions but now it's just gone crazy like tulips in the 17th century.

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